The Trashalanche Pokemon Podcast

The HotChoc Episode: Shai, Kaya, Mike solve fitness, in-person tournaments, the meta, and content creation

January 25, 2022 Brent Halliburton Season 1 Episode 72
The Trashalanche Pokemon Podcast
The HotChoc Episode: Shai, Kaya, Mike solve fitness, in-person tournaments, the meta, and content creation
Transcript
Shai:

The zoom like, yo, this is very professional. My podcast is so much off the cuff, then this is brilliant. Okay. I'll move you. Okay. So yeah, it's just going to be okay. I did have a look at earlier when I was in dinner. We call them. Yeah. So it was mostly, mostly Jim's stuff. And then some Pokegear stuff and that's fine. That's literally two thirds of my life is human Pokemons should be okay.

Brent:

I mean, and the other thirds not important. Who cares? Yeah, I thought in the big scheme of things, it's funny. I CA I know you've played a couple of tournaments since you were last on, so I'm eager to get your take, but like, man, oh man. When I look at the content creators out there, it seems like the format, like, people don't want to talk about decks in the current format.

Shai:

Yeah.

Mike:

Yeah. that story, what it seems like.

Brent:

It's a sad story. Welcome to the Trashalanche it's everybody's favorite podcast. It is a landmark day while attendance is 133% for the first time ever in 70 plus episodes of the podcast. We do not have all of the people with you. Brett Pybas has unfortunately been called into work and we could not work, make his schedule work. It is a real, a stunning tragedy. If you've ever listened to our pod before you know that we value a hundred percent attendance more than anything else, more than publishing the pod at a regularly scheduled time, more than covering topics that people actually want to listen to us. Talk. And yet here we are Kaia was available who was the fourth host, as everybody knows a shot Shay was available. And we've been saying for weeks, we were going to have him on and we were going to make that happen. And as a result, we just said, we got to charge forward with how it be. Despite the last minute meetings that normally we would just cancel the pod and move heaven and earth to I get bred on the, the good news is we're gonna, we're gonna recap the new year's resolution in that episode. And you guys have tons and tons of Brits feelings on the subject that last week. So, so while he will be missing in our hearts, your mind is already full of the Brit. So, so in that way we got there. We're sponsored by channel fireball, a channel fireball, as we talked about last week, I encourage everybody to go read the, how you, you a post about getting more women into card games. It's fantastic. We're big fan. And I think the fact that channel fireball would publish such thing, speaks to how their heart's in the right place. So if you're looking for a card store to sport, you could do worse things as supporting channel fireball. They're pretty dope and they help pay for the bills and spot. We appreciate it. In terms of five-star review update, we have not gotten a new five star review. It's been like a week or two since Alex Wilson left an amazing review on the pod. If you leave a review, we will read it on the pod. You should leave a review that way. We'll read it on the pod. All right. Very quickly guys, we talked about this in the, in the filter in, but do people have new year's resolutions? Cause we did not discuss that last time around. And Mike pointed out that we probably should. And any big goals. You know what, let me, let me throw this out here is the reason that we don't have new year's resolutions because it depends. I'm making it's crazy times.

Shai:

I mean, that's true. It does for a spanner in the works, then you think your levy show, I have this year goal, but it's like, you don't know if we're even going to be allowed out of the house and it does make it a little bit hard.

Brent:

Yeah. I think previously we would've said like, oh, we're going to try to go to Australia. And Intercontinental is like, this is going to be the year we do Australia. That was like, that was my goal two years ago. And that got canceled by pandemic. And like, I'm no closer to making a trip to Australia. It's a problem.

Shai:

Yeah, Australia be noisy as well. Girly. My, my, one of my sort of resolutions was the, I want to make sure I get that world's invoice and it's sort of song kin recently. I was like, I really didn't earn that much CP before with this crazy stuff in the now I've got like two regionals. Oh boy. I'll have to look who down. I'm I got to make sure we do well, sweat chock will be on Jesus Christ.

Mike:

How many.

Brent:

Shay you gotta, you gotta give us the intro to Shay. I think the primary thing that Shay's here to bring is insight into the personal fitness game because his, his Twitter posts of bench presses and squats recently have been a bit aspirational for me. So, so we're definitely going to like deep dive on recapping the new year's resolution, personal fitness stuff. But talk to us about all this stuff.

Shai:

Okay. Okay. Well, I live, I'll just do a quick intro. Just get my energy levels up.

Brent:

Let's do it.

Shai:

me hot shot right here. Going to have some fun. I do not want you to go anywhere for the next 90 minutes to get your drink, get your snacks. Let's lock in. Let's go right now. I've got that. I feel important to him, buddy. Let's go. Right. So what was the question again? Sorry.

Brent:

Yeah. Yeah. So give us, give us all like I feel like you're a relatively new to the scene. Content creator, go and give us the whole like Pokemon backstory and Shay back story generally and all that stuff.

Shai:

Okay. So yeah. You fairly correct in that? Yeah. I've been playing actually for a decent long time of I'd say. When I first started playing boundaries crossed was the new set. And my first proper, that was a and the black girl come out a little bit less than playing for a while. I might be getting on flight 10 years or so now or something. But back in the day I would, if you saw me what it really challenged, you would have no idea what I'm playing or religion. You could just shake my binder. Stuff comes out, sleep up, let's go, literally playing complete random trash for the most part. Um, uh, yeah. So then fast forward, start taking a little bit more seriously, you know, you know, when you go to an event and then you get like wiped every time you think, you know, I was through this then, well, I would love to do that. Oh, oh, zero four. Every time I start moving more seriously. Um, and then, yeah, so there's a little bit of noise in UK scene. Um, and then in regards to content creation, I'd like to say, uh, the channel actually started off, uh, like a partnership with, I don't know if anyone knows, but team Odyssey, team, captain Benji, as a UK team over here. Terrific team, probably the best team in UK. Uh, we actually, we've sort of made like a podcast and that was put you forward. Did that for about maybe a year. And then Tom, we couldn't really carry it. Um, so then we ended up bringing it back happy fun times, but then the co-host Benji said he couldn't really do it anymore. What actually I was his co-host. He actually owned it just in case he's listening D sounds. Right. Um, and he was all got to shut down again. I was like, no, no, no, no, no. Let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me go. Since a young age, I've been all used to make cool videos back in the devil has that being in front of the camera for some weird reason. Um, and that was, I just started to make his own bonkers. That profiles started doing some of my TCJ challenges, like playing till you lose stuff like this. Um, and then event blog was a fun one. It's a low of doing like regional blogs, li co blogs, just turn, not making people do like, you know, just putting a camera in someone's face and be like named six doc times. Go and just start. So some funny stuff. Um, and then, and then when the pandemic hit as art right now, I've literally got nothing else to do. I'm literally stuck in this house doing nothing. I kind of want to, I'm probably not right at this time again. So what can I realistically do? Um, Jim's out the question obviously is locked down where it's going to come on w realistically, cause I was, I'm not, I'm not gonna go for ones for a long time. That's just not me. Unfortunately. I was like, what can I do to use this time? I want to make sure I left this time. We have something to show for it. You know, some people don't learn languages, all that stuff. And I was like, well, let's just crack on this YouTube thing and see what we can do. Um, and then there, the channel just started growing people. So I like the sort of content, the personality and all that stuff. I started doing the comedic sketches, what most people tend to know me for now to sort of play as you see at events and all that jazz. Um, and yeah, so I think I'm in that sort of COVID wave of creators. There's quite a few. So I liked myself, pumpkin, Amy sort of took off heavily during the pandemic, uh, Zach as well to a certain extent, sort of took off in the pandemic. Um, and then now we're here. I'm just not going about making them fun stuff and on a podcast with these mighty fine people.

Brent:

Yeah, we, we were like, we were like the pandemic content creators that didn't really like ever take off.

Mike:

We do. Okay. We do okay. For the amount of money and effort we put into marketing. It's not too bad.

Brent:

Exactly, exactly.

Shai:

There

Brent:

Our successes corresponds to our marketing investments.

Mike:

I think that's a, that's an interesting point that there has kind of been, um, a lot of, a lot of pandemic content creators, and it's been cool to see and people want to make the content, but there's also more people in theory that want to consume it too, because nobody's freaking doing anything. So, uh, I think it's very much appreciated that everybody's kinda, they have more options to watch and it's not just as well all the time.

Shai:

Yeah, there you go. Especially if you want to see some of the bone stuff recover over it. If you want some outdoor stuff, you ain't get it much over many of the places. It's tough to fill that niche, uh, as best as I can, but it must be said, if you come in for perfect gameplay, go somewhere else. Cause you are not getting air. You're not getting a good gameplay. I go somewhere else.

Brent:

There's definitely these spectrum from like, from like Azule where like every misplay is counted and agonized over and like considered and reconsidered and, you know uh, litigated to, to the like uh, I don't know, random creation, fun times pods,

Shai:

Yeah. So what you said, yeah, they exist on two

Brent:

right? Yeah. Yeah. All right. So you ready? So talk to us about the fitness background. Talk to us about, about the non Pokemon Che.

Shai:

Okay, well, you want like a full sort of quick story recap. Yeah. Okay. So since I was a little baby hot shock, I've always been a sport geezer. I've played so many sports, like soccer, I guess was the first one baseball played at a high level over

Brent:

no, I like, I like how he called it soccer there. That was

Shai:

yeah, you see you people over there.

Brent:

You can tell that like, pause where he was like, yeah, I'm going to do it. Okay. We're there.

Shai:

That was that. You know what I mean? It's make sure that you, uh, overseas listeners know what I mean? So, yeah. Um, be, I bet she picked baseball. Um, but then once we're going into secondary school, the main sport I used to play was like Boston. And I, her, I got to a decent level of a national league over here. We were also playing, like playing for my city, but then stopped going. Height-wise a little bit, you know what I mean? I'm only five foot, nine, five foot 10 on a good day. Uh, when I aged up into under 21, all of a sudden the centers have gone from my height until I six foot seven. I'm like, oh my goodness, how are what's going on here then? And I wasn't really good enough to make up for that. That's when I started getting the gym, uh, for the most part. And back then, uh, it's all like just, you know, get better at basketball. And then it sort of goes into sort of the more gym bros stuff. Like, yeah, I want to get more, I want to get more attention to club. You know what I mean? So yeah. Pack up the t-shirts and all that. Um, and yeah, so from there I saw, uh, went to Jim, Lowe's got in pretty decent shape actually. And then I got ended up getting a job at McDonald's right. And becoming a manager at McDonald's and then all that mostly just went and it all came back up to far. I leave here, he got up to my heaviest was like 120 kg, which I was quickly put, convert that into pounds for you. Um, that's quite a lot. That's like two 60 per 60. That's heavy, you know, I ain't going to lie on her shirt credit. I was a fat man. Um, so it ended up getting out. It was McDonald's locally and then looked in the mirror and was like, this needs to change right now. Uh, at the time when I went through a breakup as well. And that's even worse, you know, when you're looking into the mirror, you're not single. You're like, oh my Lord used to have a lot cuts and lines, and now it's just like, role's going to get off. So yeah, got back into it a lot. And they had him come in a personal trainer on the flip end, working in like one of the. Uh, change hymns, even UK called pure gym. Um, and yeah, I've been a personal trainer for about what four or five years give or take and yeah, just, that's pretty much it mostly focused on a, more of a power lifting type style. And I like to lift heavy things and I tend to give him my smile trade and just more so I feel t-shirts out. Cause I think I want to look big. I want to be imposing, you know what I mean? I know you said on your podcast last week, actually that if you're natural, you can only really have two out of the free, like big OBS or strong, something like that. Pick two of the free,

Brent:

I think that was what Jay said. I like that I'd never had. But I liked it.

Shai:

Yeah, I don't, I am a lifetime natural dad. I ain't done anything like this. So th th the, the two I've gone for, it's just like size and strength, but watch this space because I'm looking to lean out this year. I want to see what's hiding on the, you know what I mean, going to try and leads. So we're going to see, but, um, yeah. I love being a PT so much for, you know, helping people, you know, people coming in, like, you know, I want to do X, Y, and Z. Let's walk it. And we're just like, let's go really reward in a Superfund or something I still do now as well in and around poker on YouTube and being a uni student. So yeah, love it. Love it. Love it.

Brent:

All right. So, so I, I, I feel like we, what we should do is I know you listened to last week's pot. I'm sure everybody listening to this pod listen to last week's pod because you listen to every pot. I always got to try to just hit the high points of like the things that I wanted to cover with Jay and Britt. And we were trying to get you on and we couldn't quite make it happen because I recognized both Kaia and you have made a huge sacrifice to be here. It's literally the middle of the night. Uh, diet, what's a win when you get a new client in. And they're like, I, you know, we got to do that thing. Do you have recommendations? There is a strategy that you've seen that's most effective for people.

Shai:

Um, the strategy most effective for people. Um, but let's say someone come to me when it comes to nutrition, I normally say, uh, but I'll do me a food diary for the next two weeks, just so I can see, you know, what's going on. Let me see. Cause everyone's got the window with tingle. Some people might have like a really big breakfast that will launch big. Then I pull my snack all the time. Right. I just wanna see what's going on because if you sort of give someone, okay, generic plan, if it doesn't fit into their normal eating habits, then going to states where it's like, oh, I don't really like a bag, but it's not a big those big dentist. If I was to, if someone was to give me a plan, not a big, big breakfast and afternoon, I just want to see what's going on. And then I'll sort of tweak from what I see. So let's say this person really loves a snack at 5:00 PM because that's when they get out of work. And for some reason why, so let's not make that much. Let's, let's not take it away. Let's just put someone else in a lot of some albums or something like this. Um, but along the shore of it, it's just calorie deficit. For the most part, 90% of my clients all just want to lose, you know, this want to like get, get some muscle lines, cut some, a bit of a belly often for that. You need to eat less than what you, uh, then what you expand fairly simple stuff. So it's just trying to get into that. There's many ways to skin a cat, you know, some people like to do intimate fasting where you like, you know, go like a year and eat 16 hours a day. Something like this, which perfectly works fine. Some people like key obit extreme, but it works all these different diet styles that will do the same thing. It's just eat less. So whatever is more sustainable for you, whichever way you find makes it easier as well. I recommend what for the most part is literally just slim down your portion, sizes, um, and stuff like this. Um, that was a good quote from a PT over here in the UK. Uh, can we curse on here?

Brent:

Go go crazy.

Shai:

Uh, the quote was literally, if you want to lose weight, don't eat like a dickhead. I put in my spot that tends to, you know what I mean? Like if you, like, you look at your meal, think, oh, I'm taking a piss. You probably shouldn't be in it. Like, that tends to work quite well as well, to be fair. So yeah.

Brent:

So,

Mike:

like it.

Brent:

that.

Mike:

Sorry. I was just, let me just quote really, really quick. I like how you mentioned the Mars bar. Mars bars are when, when I was growing up, I would often have, uh, the, the people from the UK that I knew the Pokemon people, like, uh, the seconds like Yassine and Sammy and ready and whatnot, they would, they would bring me Mars bars at worlds. Cause that was like my favorite.

Shai:

they are nice. They're good. Like 400 calories though. Lee that's all adds up quick, you know?

Mike:

Yeah.

Brent:

For somebody who's like relatively new, do you advocate that they have just like, like you should eat less or, or should they focus on like recomposition that was something we talked about a little bit last week.

Shai:

Yeah.

Brent:

Yeah. Like, I feel like when, when you look at like whatever, a random forum ex new people are always like, I'm going to do this crazy cut and every

Shai:

Um,

Brent:

should they be doing a crazy cut? Is there an, is there an answer to that question? Okay.

Shai:

Yeah, no, for sure. It's interesting because I think what happens a lot now, I see, um, in regards to flooding, a lot of the time you have people are starting to fitness. Jane, they're mad at me at all. What should I do? I've got this plan and some of the stuff people are busting out these days, all I'm going to do this thought where you do X, Y, Z, X. And I'm thinking you've definitely pulled that from like an IFB. YouTube video or something for Android. And like, Hey, this man is like 300 pounds. You're like, it's not, you know, we don't need to like, you know what I mean? They take them as high end stuff. And at that, I think you mentioned it before on your podcast last week. Like, we want to do little, you want me to little changes over time, right? So you've got like, you know, mindset actually getting in the gym in the first place, and then you've got nutrition and this something that can be part of everyone. All right. So this even myself, cause I had COVID at new year, so I didn't get to train for like two weeks. I wanted to slowly integrate myself back in. So I was like, first two weeks is just getting in the gym. Don't worry about nutrition. Just get in there five times a week, get it done. After that we'll work on nutrition. And after that we would introduce college. I was just in my college a week now, so they've gotta be really slow with it. So if someone new came to me. Looking at light nutrition and not all like what plan, I just say minimum effective dose. Just do the minimum. You can get the result. And if you're brand spanking, you, you can literally like do the worst plan. Uh, well, they are easy and you are going to get you organized at V calm. You are going to get muscle on. You are going to burn fat at the same time. It's really good for new people. Cause then you sort of get that result quite quick. Get a little bit of motivation. But, um, one thing I would say about Viacom though, it's not something I would a hundred percent recommend or they're not recommended for the wrong, but I think we call it if you want to do it, like by the science, it's really hard. You have to hit, you have to be moving like a two, 300 calorie department, a surplus every day. And if you're not hardcore, That's quite hard to do. Cause I always sort of mainly pick if you want to beef up, chompy four point, you want to go down and get down. Um, because if you try and get a new kombucha, I'm really counting those macros and calories to the, you know, it's that nitty-gritty can be a bit off, put in like way like counting food to be fair. But, um, but yeah, if you knew though, just focus on other, no, getting in the gym two, three weeks first, then nutrition or vice versa. If you want to get your nutrition down first, get that sorted. You know, don't eat like a steady Giza, uh, get that sorted, then get in the gym. Yeah.

Brent:

All right. So, so let's say, let's say you're somebody like Mike Fouchet. So Mike is, he's gotten the, like, he's building the gym habit. He's getting in there a couple of times a week for a couple of months. Uh, but he has what, I think what I call like the variety pack right now. Like w whenever I visit like a gym that I've never been to before, I'm always like, oh, they don't have, I've never seen the, I, you know, I don't know, access to this machine at the gym I go to, we're definitely doing this machine. Like I just wander around the gym, doing stuff.

Shai:

Okay. Yeah, yeah,

Brent:

but, but like, I don't know. The thing that I was harped on is I, I always feel like that doesn't like, make me grow. That's just like a fun thing to do. Cause I'm like, oh, they have a new machine. I'm going to do this new machine.

Shai:

yeah.

Brent:

if your goal was to do that thing, is there like a program that you are a believer in for, for people who are getting started or is it, is the custom or like, how do you think about that?

Shai:

I think for the most part, someone looking to get in the chip, I'd say something like a push pull legs ask program is the one of the better places to start just because it gets, you used to thinking about muscle groups working synergistically. So if anyone doesn't know, a push pull legs would be one day, you do all your upper body push muscles that I'd be chest tricep, front out, maybe side that if want to put that in there. Right. So for all that day or that, uh, that workout, you would just do like chest stuff for outside belt triceps. That'd be like bench press, maybe, uh, some work, push down some shoulder profess stuff like this. Your pool day would be the reverse. That's all your back muscles. We're talking about traps, lats. Biceps we're dealt all that good stuff. And then legs is obviously, you know, just anything below your hips. Um, I think that's a pretty good program. Uh, just all a good way to train, just because I say it gets you thinking about synergistic styles. Um, it gets you used to compound lifts, which I think are really good. So give it a shot. So, um, guess you figured about compound lifts, which are really nice as well, the most effective way to train in my opinion. Um, just a real good, fundamental way to go. You know what I mean? So I think a push pull leg, you could also go like upper body, lower body. That's another split. I've seen people doing this sort of interweave rest stays in there. Um, yeah. Push pull Lexi into pretty good. And if you want to sort of dial in even more, you can start doing stuff like five by five is where you do five sets, five routes. That's a little bit, guess get a little bit more intermediate, but stuff like this, but yeah, just to be fair, these sort of feed, you can literally just Google for the most. know, push pull legs program and you'll get like, there's really good free resource. I like toggle fitness is quite good. I think free programs or bodybuilding.com to a kind of similar extent. Um, and just get voted in all, if you know, any PTs or anything like that, you can just message them just saying, I'm looking to get into GM. What can we saw out? And they might even sort you, some free programs that pass out to people as well, or other people, or you may even get like a cheap one. I don't know. Um, but yeah, push, pull legs, I think is a pretty good way to start.

Brent:

Yeah, I that's. I think the, I mean, the funny thing about the internet is the second you start Googling, you get like, you have millions of choices. I mean,

Shai:

Yes.

Brent:

and it's not obvious like which one you should do if you don't know,

Shai:

no, a hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah.

Brent:

like, like, eh, I mean, it's weird. Cause I recognize, I mean, I'm always telling my kids, I mean, when I was like 20, which you know I mean they carved programs on tablets back then. Um,

Shai:

stone,

Brent:

yeah, like you like, you couldn't like, you couldn't find a program cause like that wasn't a thing. And, and now we're like going full circle where, where the problem is not, you don't have access to programs or access to diet information, or access to workout information. It's, there's so many programs you don't know which one you're supposed to do. And, and in that way it's a string.

Shai:

yeah, no, for sure that I agree a hundred percent like. I see this quite a lot as well. If people, uh, provided, uh, analysis paralysis, like, there'll be like, oh, I want to do this program. But then a YouTube uploads, this program, the next thing, or maybe I'll do that. And it's like, oh, but then this YouTube has this all right. This awkward without contradict that. And like, you know what I mean? I say like 80% of the results just come from picking a program that's not silly and just doing it. So if it's like a Fremont program, just do it. If it's like one more program, just do it. Like just, it doesn't matter, but it's not like the tippy top 1% program because you're not trying to get on stage. You're not trying to compete. You know what I mean? You don't need the most advanced things. You can just literally get in the gym, pushing weights, bursts of muscle, burn, some fight, you know what I mean? It doesn't need to be the perfect thing. So yeah, just pick one and carry on because if you were to sit down with a time and trying to find a program, if you get new info, like this journal journals being written all the time, or you be there for days. So yeah, just, just, just get it done.

Brent:

This is, this is the opportunity for the circular Pokemon reference. Like. Content creators every day. They're like, this is the spicy new deck. And you're like, oh my God, I got to change this spicy new deck.

Shai:

That yet that's yet you're a hundred percent rights. Yeah. Let's pick it out. If you're going into a regional, right. Let's say you've got a reasonable Portsmouth. Um, and I'm going to pay a single strike for example, but then I don't know my own upload something, I think, oh my Lord. Now see King's video. I'm gonna play that. And then the next day as to what those disks and okay. And I would play this and practice this by the time that regionals get steady, you're going to not know anything.

Brent:

Right, right. You know, as, as if agonizing over what deck you were gonna play, wasn't tough enough in the age, like pre content creators, a constant wave. Right.

Shai:

Yeah, no. Yeah. I see people I'm going to play this and take it to event. I'm like, oh, what, you're good with it. If you know what I mean?

Brent:

All right. So, so the question, the question that I ask everybody, cause it's the thing that I, I agonize about. How do you like log and track?

Shai:

How do I log, this is an injury. I saw this on the tape, on the, on the sheet and I was like, this is going to be really weird. So I would recommend people pen and paper, or like your notes app on your phone or some sort of journal thing. Um, cause it is good to track. Like I think the easiest way to build muscle in my opinion is to just lift and more than what you did, you know, last week or last month for, so the easiest way to do that, just lift more right down. So last week, Five sets of 15 kilogram. This Tom, I'm going to do five sets of 17. So, and if you just have it written down, there is quite good. But for myself, I don't know if it's because I've been PTM for so long or whatever, but I can just remember what I did last week. Like, oh, I don't know. I can just remember. Oh, I did. This is the best I can remember for my clients as well. So I just literally just remember what I did and just carry on, but yeah, pen and paper or a note taking app would be fantastic, but, and I, and that goes the same for not just resistance training, if you're doing any cardio based. So this is you're training for a 5k. You're obviously going to want to walk down while your 5k times are in the past. So, you know, it's just, just treat it the same. Yeah.

Mike:

So one, one thing that after our conversation last week that I was thinking about is I know a lot of people that work out there. Beyond, just like having a good diet, they do some type of protein shake at eight protein bars or something like that. How, how important is that? And like, is that just important if you want to build muscle versus just toning yourself, like, how does that kind of fit in.

Shai:

Yeah, so per is super important because protein is that the sort of macro nutrients really aids with, uh, fat muscle production and helps with fat burn as well. So you're getting a good amount of protein is, um, really important, right? For both sort of like if you want to burn fat or build muscle per is really good. Uh, but just sort of protein shakes and bars can not convince, but it's, it's just a really convenient way to get like a big hit of protein quite fast. Um, but when I was at my super strongest, I was like doing a lot of power lifting stuff. I didn't have any protein shakes. Cause you can just get it from all the sources, right? Like you have a protein shake or like a tin of tuna with some bread after you work out. You know what I mean? So if you have like, And communism of a place it's not super essential, but what I would say, if you're someone that's sort of struggling to hit that protein number, wherever it is, whatever sort of number you're aiming for, um, you see, you find yourself downloading 50, 50 grams a day or something like this. You just have two protein shakes you now, 40 grams in, and now you've just got 10 grams to make up somewhere. So I'd say protein shakes and bars are more of a convenience thing. If, uh, if anything definitely not essential by any means, but just an easy way to get protein. And, and they're really good for hitting a little hunger. If you like hungry, got like two hours between meals, the mouth, I'll just have a, I'll have a quick, low carb shake. And that just settles the stomach a little bit though. Yeah. So not, it's not essential. We're pretty helpful. I'd say,

Brent:

So I know Jay and Brit both did the, like one gram of protein per pound of body weight. I assume that's the same kind of number you use, right?

Shai:

I actually, I'm going to work out now. I do. I actually shoot a lot lower and I don't know. probably I'd probably listen to them more. I go for more like one, one gram per kilogram of body weight. So I got about 120 to 240 a day. Um, but what I have noticed, the more I get the saw my numbers do go up faster. I just find it hard to eat my protein your day. You know, it's, it's hard,

Brent:

Well, I mean, again, the answer is protein shake, right?

Shai:

Oh, there you go. I have to, I have two a, they already, you know what I have to it out, but, um, yeah, I don't think you need to get a massive like that, that number. It used to be what was widely considered was like 2.2 grams per pound of by day, which is if I was doing now, I'll be looking about like few hundred grams of protein and it's stupid, maybe even more. Um, but yeah, I would just say when it comes to protein, I try and I try to hit over 120 grams a day personally. Um, anything under that, I started to feel aches and pains. I start to feel a bit lethargic, so I know things aren't really busting. Right. But, um, yeah, that's what I am for, but I'd probably, if you're new and you want to get started, listen to what they said. They said,

Brent:

Okay. My, my, my gut tells me like it, you know, if you're, if you're lifting weights, you want to lift heavier every week. If you want to lift heavier every week, you got to have more muscle. And if you want to have more muscle, you got to eat enough protein. So like you, you know, you should like, I don't know, kind of spot check your diet. And if you're eating enough protein naturally, that's totally awesome.

Shai:

exactly.

Brent:

For me as a vegetarian, I, there's no way I can eat enough protein. Like I just don't have enough love of tofu to get there without a

Shai:

no that's yeah. My Mrs is a vegetarian. It's almost a very close to it's just like cheers. So trying to get, trying to keep our protein numbers or book. Interesting. So I know exactly where you're coming from life.

Brent:

I, you know, my, my weakness, I would, I would do the vegan thing, except for that. I'm like, I have to have eggs because I don't want to fail. And I feel like I would fail a big vegetarian if like, because eggs are like the go-to magical source of like cheap, uh, cheap protein at, in real food. So,

Shai:

good fats as well. Great fats.

Brent:

yeah, I know, I know we'll post with the less of me but, but I feel like to stay on the wagon, I gotta be able to use the eggs to help me achieve my personal goals and my ethical.

Shai:

Oh, yeah, no, I love eggs. I'm more I'm over eggs. 7, 8, 8, 8 grams of protein per egg. Oh, I'll take that. Whoo. Get, get on a bagel, two eggs. You on like 23 grams of protein already.

Brent:

Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's the easy way. It's the easy path to victory for me. That, that is that in yogurt. So I guess that's dairy too. So a failure, I'm a failure. All right, guys, let's talk about a Pokemon because Pokemon is the most important thing. It's why people listen to the pot big scheme of things. Are there things we should talk about in this format or does everyone hate this format? I feel like every content creator now is a, let's talk about brilliant star. So let's talk about GLC. And even though in the tournaments that are going on right now are just like standard format and it's just me and me and me and maybe.

Kaya:

Yeah. And I like all the videos I see are just brilliant star, even though we have like a month left until the set even released. And I usually don't plan ahead on decks. I'll just wait to have a set of release and then I'll test online. So I'm not really watching that right now, but I think the format read now, it's not the worst we had in a long time. And I mean, it's fine. I've played a. Uh, the most recent tournaments on played was like two weeks ago. And I played Joel Dedenne because I just enjoy playing with deck red. Now, even though a mirror, I was kind of mad and some match-ups are not very grade. I've played a bit with muse as well, but I don't know. I think format will be a lot better than, uh, when brilliant star releases. So I don't play as much red. Now I'll rather wait a bit and then start playing well, uh, in a month.

Brent:

is jolty on the most fun deck to play right now? I mean, I kind of agree with Kyle. I feel like, I mean, I know, I mean, my kids say like we should, if we're going to play a deck, we should play jolty on, but then they, like, they played jolty on and they're like this a hundred, a hundred snipe. It's boring. I still want more stuff to do, but like, that's probably the closest thing we have to a competitive deck. That's like a fun thing. Are there other decks that you guys think of as like fun?

Shai:

drug fund personally. Um, I think probably more so because single single-shot Urshifu is my favorite Pokemon. So I'm just like, Hey, this is, this is out nice. Isn't it? But, um, I just always liked the control of the games in before. I'd get you when you get it set up. Right. You can look energy from there. You can go sit around when you want, and you can just slap some finish straight to the disco pile. It's uh, it's fun. But just getting to that point, isn't it. That's the, that's the problem? Um, single strike, isn't it like if you can get there, you know, 200 dooms be McAfee, max, you're laughing. Um, but yeah, uh, I dunno, I think mew is kind of fun in the sense that you just blow something off and just win the game. Just like ha have that. Um, you and Kathy playing muda no, no.

Brent:

Yeah.

Mike:

Yeah, I find me pretty fun to play as well. Um, I think. A lot of nuance in a lot of the match-ups the sequencing matters. Um, quite a lot. The only thing though, is the mirrors. So it sucks so much. The mirror is so terrible. It's like, oh, you know, I went first and they didn't kill me on their first turn. I went in the game or like, I go second and I killed your guy on my first turn. I guess I would make him. And then pretty much that's it. Like, that's almost the entire matchup.

Shai:

Yeah, and I immediate it's so tough, like coming from someone that plays some rogue stuff or videos, or I feel potent opponent flips over music is just like, oh man, this is, this is going to be hard. And like, you know, I'll pay for park. I'm going to stick that down to one option. But I, and I just let, yeah, let me just bounce that away as, okay. Cheers, mate. Appreciate that. It's just so annoying, but Joanne is good. I do a lot, Joel. And as often, if I was about, if there was like a big event tomorrow, uh, John would have to be a big consideration. I just love a deck, which is probably the opposite single now where like nine times out of 10, you're going to get, it's not the hardest thing in the world to get a job of energy and an elemental bad. Right. And if you can just do that multiple times in the day, at least you can not sit behind your computer screen. Like, damn, I didn't even set up that one. God lay like, you know what I mean?

Brent:

So kind of have you done much testing of the of the wheezing like Moltres stark.

Kaya:

Actually not really, I'm not the biggest fan of the deck, so I haven't really tried it as much. I think it's good read now. I just, I don't know. I like playing new. Are I like playing single strike as well? Just, I wouldn't play it at a big tournament, for example, because I just know about it. Sometimes you have problems setting up. Uh, so I don't know about raising retinol. I just, I played against a lot of children, like one tournament. I haven't played against a single mew, but I played like 10 reasonings. So

Shai:

10 wheezing.

Brent:

That's about right. Actually, that, that

Kaya:

yeah.

Brent:

Um, so, so one of the things I want to talk about is I think Mike predicted two weeks ago, the people would just start playing Oricorio and escape, open their mute X, and then they would roll over all these wheezing decks. And I think it's kind of worked out like that. And so I told Mike that, that last week, but this week we should talk for a second about what people are going to do differently with Dex to deal with the fact that Oricorio exists. Uh, Mike, did you come up with any great stuff for us? Are you ready to reshape the meta yet again, after you did it weeks ago?

Shai:

Why don't you tell people to put you in the debt box and leave it there since you, since you have the ability to just get people to do what you say, leave it.

Mike:

I haven't, I haven't given much thought from the dark side. I still don't think like the wheezing deck is the wheezing version of dark is better against the field, but it's still like significantly worse against mew itself. And so, I dunno, I would probably just go back to playing the street, dark deck, take your hard losses. Urshifu doesn't really seem to be in the format much. You take the loss to guilty on, but then you kick, then you start beating you again, because then you don't really need Hoopa all the time to kill the metadata. You can just, you just more easily stream your Moltres versus cause you're a more straightforward deck. So I think that's, that's the best I got right now. Unfortunately.

Shai:

Yeah, I agree. I agree. I think the decks so good even without, uh, wheezing. Um, yeah, you can just tell me if you can just stream mochas as you win the w why we like for it in a sealed or wheeze in a bucket, Mr. Let's just do two 50 or 300. Know what I mean? Like gaming PA, you know what I mean?

Brent:

Do I have

Mike:

cool to my thought too.

Brent:

yeah. So, so how much I haven't played the dark, like that much. Does that just lose to like people of morning? You, like, I think the challenge of playing the Moltres stuff is you have to kind of get everything ready and then

Mike:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yes, Marnie is definitely a big deal, but, um, in a lot of match-ups you don't need more than two Moltres, which isn't that hard. do with Marty, but the. problem is if you really need, like three Moltres says are formal trusses, which, Um, you kind of do against mew with uh Oricorio because hoop is just not helping. So, and you typically doesn't play Marnie. Um, I know Zander and I have started to play one Marnie in you, but That hasn't really caught on. Um, but I think that is like, if you play the one Marnie it's like, and the Oricorio, it's really your favorite against dark, which is so dumb,

Shai:

That is gross.

Brent:

And, and, and Marty is a great example of like the tech card you wanted to play anyway. Right?

Mike:

right.

Shai:

Yeah.

Brent:

you're like, oh, it increases consistency. And like, uh, you know, auto wins dark. I should play that card. I mean, Marnie it's great. Everybody loves me.

Shai:

I feel as if, if you're a mew play a morning, you're going to catch so many over decks or players off guard. I'm not telling you I'm playing against you. I'm just like, well, I can just do whatever I want my hand. I can hold this. I can hold this. I can hold it. And if they just bust out a morning, I'm cursing. So there was money and quite honestly, that's Caruso.

Brent:

So what, what else is going on Chi? What, what other things have you seen tournaments there? Is there, like, I mean, I understand why the people thought they feel like the format of stale. I don't have some like, oh my God, we got to talk about this crazy deck today.

Kaya:

Yeah. Like nothing that extreme, like last time I played a tournament in west Teresa go, but I faced just way too much freezing bed nights. So, uh, like I played against a few Drella DUNS as well, whereas, but that seemed fun, but I dunno how good it actually is, but otherwise there hasn't really been a really new and exciting deck, I guess.

Shai:

always going to say that, um, uh, Douala Don has been on a bit of a tear. It's gone from like eight desks back to like third or fourth or something mud recently. Like, um, I was just wondering, like, when you play against you think I'm not losing to this, there's no way I've got like 400 tons, so there do anything, but then you find yourself that came like, oh boy, it's modern. It's just my house. They can afford to manually attach free. It's crazy how, how, how the debt gets away with it. But it does. It's, it's a mountainous and pretty decent medical, you know what I mean? Cause I'm looking at on play limitless. Now I'm seeing a lot of, first of all, first and seeing the second deck is doing well. And just being able to sit back and say, oh, you've got a special energy. I've got such shame. You can say, you can stay right there. Then pretty

Brent:

the how's the dark match up for drill down. Is that.

Mike:

Um, it depends almost entirely on Sableye. Um, so they're able to use Sableye to kill a V max, but, um, sometimes the Darale add-on can keep healing off. Enough damage. So Sableye, can't ever really one shot. Um, and then if you just do it enough time, then you're going to get too far ahead in the prize trade that they're not gonna be able to catch up. Um, the other thing drought on can do is go one V max then is our Sheehan and then another V max. And then if they're able to like, effectively do that, then it's impossible. It's just, that's kind of hard. Cause like you said, they have to manually attach like nine times then.

Shai:

Yeah. That sounds like a big uphill struggle for say broad scale.

Mike:

Yeah.

Brent:

No. And I assume if you I mean, if you a, if they kill one, Sableye like the price trade is just swinging and swinging and swinging further, further in their favor, right? Like you're, you're trying to figure out how not to get through that. How many switch cards does drought play?

Mike:

Usually like four, three or four, I think.

Shai:

Let's see. Do we switch? I'm seeing mostly three switches.

Mike:

Yeah, that sounds, that sounds right to me.

Brent:

That seems like enough. All right. Interesting. Alright, so let's, let's transition from talking about the format to talking about whether or not we're going to play the format for a second. I feel like how are we feeling? Let let's pull on like how likely events are to happen. Are people going to go to in-person regionals will live, it will in-person regionals that occur.

Shai:

I there's a lot of infuse Yazoo I feel. And I would go personally, I would adore being able to play IRL again, but I just don't see it happening. Whoa, come on as a brand. So conch just on like every everything, and I just don't see them being right in the middle of a pandemic. You know, we've got the most what the most spreadable COVID Varian right now for the most part. Um, yeah, go ahead. Have fun. I just don't see that happening. I just, I just can't see a world. Like, you know what I mean? Like they won't endorse any content creators, swears, you know what I mean? So I can't, how are they going to go? This is the same brand we're talking about, but they're going to show him a hold off. He put in a ponder, even with that, you know, rules on, you know, mask and vaccine and all that. I still, I just can't see it. It pains me to say, but I really do hope it does though. Things.

Kaya:

Yeah.

Brent:

maybe we should take a step back. What's the, what's the like a pandemic situation in you guys area. Like how locked down are things in, in the UK and Germany.

Kaya:

Um, Hmm, well, uh, in school they're still open. So I still go to school every day in person, which formal was kind of weird. We fought, they were gonna get shut down again and we have a distance learning like we had a year ago. Uh, but I think they're going to stay open now, at least, uh, nothing has been announced and I guess it's going okay. I mean, uh, various, like you need to be boostered to go into a restaurant for example, and all of that here. So I think that's pretty good. Uh, but otherwise I think it's going okay. There's no like real lockdown right now, so yeah.

Brent:

That sounds like, like a kind of regional optimism as far as how the pandemics going. How are things in the UK?

Shai:

Uh, interested in interest and it's come out, it's come out. But the prime minister are sort of, you know, prime minister and their sort of political PI. They were having loads of like, uh, like birthday parties and like, you know, drinking kind of parties like last year during the, you know, it was when we were in lockdown. Right. So I feel as if now it's like sort of combat this bad press. They're just trying to rock back or the restrictions that we have. Like, I think like as of next week, Moss won't be needed anymore. There's you can go anywhere regardless of vaccine status at the minute. So that's, you know, that's just how it is, but they said, I saw for March, you can be able, if you test positive, you don't have to isolate you get like advice or something. What is going on. So I'm a little bit for what's happening. It's always going to be a slow descent into madness, but, um, the numbers, I think they are coming down, they were super high, like a few weeks or months ago. We've only McAllen, but, uh, It is calming down, but I just think that the attitude is over here in UK. People just don't vote for your one via, you can debate that, but people just don't. I just can't be bothered. I'm just like, I can see me coming from books still out there. Unformer it, it doesn't matter how much you want it to go. It's still there. So, um, like I said, I think the reason was here is in Liverpool, in your puffing. Well, one of them that Liverpool, then he got a German one. So I'm just not sure. And I said March, I don't know. I'm hoping, I'm hoping.

Kaya:

Yeah. Like the numbers. I think they're going up here right now as well. It's kind of weird, like a one day we're going up and the next day there's suddenly a bit lower it's I don't really know, but I think we're still growing up a bit and well, Franklin was supposed to be in a privileged or.

Shai:

Okay.

Kaya:

Oh, was it in April or in March of this year?

Shai:

Is this the internet. So I

Kaya:

Oh yeah, the Internet's

Shai:

think the internet is in April. It

Kaya:

yeah. In April

Shai:

Liverpool. Yeah.

Kaya:

Well, I dunno when various posts Ken's will then, like we only have three months till then, and two months till April. So it's getting kind of delayed. So like Vail, if I have to cancel them soon, like not for, for example, a month or a few weeks before, so I guess we'll just have to wait how I decided.

Shai:

Yeah. That's true. Yeah. I haven't got long after time is ticking.

Brent:

You know, Hey,

Shai:

that? Some sort of post.

Brent:

here, they, the us says the first regional in, I guess, like mid-March and I feel like it's like really close now and all, I, I like, I feel like I just see the tios tweeting, like these kind of enthusiastic tweets and it makes it seem like. I mean,

Mike:

Yeah. Yeah. Like Dallas has been tweeting recently, right?

Brent:

yeah. The CEO has been tweeting a ton and like, like, you know uh, shaming the anti-vax community, which I'm here for and, and, and but like, so what's the latest, I mean, I guess, I mean, I remember Toronto, whatever two years ago, like they'll shut down. They shut down that regional, like the day before the regional, how late do you think Pokemon would be willing to wait before they they'd pull the plug? I think there's a point of like, we've passed the point of no return.

Mike:

I don't think we're past that. I think it depends on the event too. So I feel like domestic events, they could probably reasonably pull the plug even up to like a week before. I don't think they would ever do like the day before. Cause I think that was a very unique situation, but I could see it up until like the week before, but I think the internets would probably have to be canceled with more advanced, right. Because people, people will be traveling from potentially quite far away.

Shai:

Yeah, that sounds, yeah, I reckon I say I think two weeks, two weeks for regional and then, and then, and now it's, I've mirrored. I'd have, well, you'd hope anyway, because

Mike:

Yeah,

Shai:

you know, a lot more flights involved in hotels, like yeah.

Brent:

You know, I, I saw it and I mean, obviously I got in trouble the last time I talked about rebel, but a roll out, a funny tweet where he was tweeting that like United had like, she flights to London. And he was at any kind of, he kind of tweeted, implying that he was like buying tickets for a world. And it seemed like an act of bravery. Like, you know, I get that. It's a refundable, even though all this stuff's refundable for me, I guess the, the like mental overhead of trying to unwind trips keeps me from booking these trips until I feel like much more confident, you know?

Kaya:

Yeah.

Shai:

Yeah, no, I must say I'm quite happy. Oh, I say happy silver line and nice in London this year, because all authors get a train ticket. the day off. If I want to like, um, yeah. Having to navigate flights, especially like a big flight, like, you know, like you have to do from the stage that would yeah. Acts of bravery. Put it is. That is exactly what I was saying as well.

Brent:

And have you talked with your parents or do you, are you aware of like your parents thinking about like, like in AIC, for example, or like traveling to a regionals outside of Germany and stuff like that? Like how our, how our parents think of.

Kaya:

I think, uh, we're actually, we would go if they take place, uh, like if they decide if it's not a high risk or anything, I think we would go to an AACU worlds and other regionals, like all of a pool, for example, if, if they take place and, uh, two or three months, um, I mean, you will have to write how the situation is at that time, but I, I mean, we can hope that it gets better over the summer again. So

Brent:

Right, but they haven't booked anything yet. Right. They're still, they're still kind of wait and see,

Kaya:

I don't think so. No.

Brent:

I think that lines up with that, we're thinking about.

Mike:

Yeah.

Shai:

was an often jealous. I see over bad man tweeting over in America. I'm like, it wasn't like a one K last weekend, bear little events popping apart. I don't have that unofficial. I don't like, Ooh, I wish I had

Brent:

Yeah, you gotta have like the hot chalk, a one K boom. I mean that, that, that brands itself right there, the

Shai:

Hey she K Ooh. Maybe I should. I'm just get organized, whatever. Hey, you know what I mean? Come on.

Brent:

People in it. I think it's really interesting how, how, like local stores are organizing so many, like more and more events and Alex Wilson's whole like Carolina circuit, which I don't really understand, but like, it's impressive that he's organized a series of tournaments that have some sort of thing that you qualify for.

Mike:

And who knows, man, like if this pandemic keeps, keeps going for awhile, maybe that's like the, the, the immediate future that we might have to take an official stance where you have these. Limited circuits to at least, you know, at the very least, um, not have people traveling long distances to go to these events. I mean, it would be something if I'm Pokemon like took an official stance on that, that that might be kind of cool. I don't know. It'd be better than what we have now, which is nothing.

Brent:

Yeah, I know. It also makes me realize now that I guess Alex, the dad he's like, he's like future Tio material. This is, this is prepping him for like, you know, the next generation of, of like, you know, tournament organizers and stuff like that.

Mike:

That's true.

Brent:

He and Ethan Hexter will be like the people running Pokemon 30 years from now.

Mike:

Okay. What part of the UK do you live in?

Shai:

I live in the Midlands. Uh, I live just near Birmingham, which is the second biggest city in England. Uh, yeah. So smart. Literally here's the look on a map, smack bang in the middle. That's where I am. So this is quite handy for events actually, when they're on. Cause they're not too far away for me.

Mike:

Okay. Cool.

Brent:

What other stuff, what other stuff do we want to talk about? I meant to ask you at the end of the workout segment, if there were like other things that burned you up, or you were just like talking points coming out of a last week.

Shai:

Um, Yeah, I would say for anyone that's looking to hop in have started around January time. Uh, the main sort of key things I would recommend or say is take it slow. It's a slow man's game. Unfortunately, fitness. You're not going to have four weeks results, six weeks results, unfortunately. Uh, so take it slow. Um, get yourself a program. Uh, I found that a lot of people, um, like, you know, use taking it socially to keep themselves accountable, like on a bastard. One of the reasons why I do all my Twitter posts for TCG fit farm farmers to keep myself accountable because you know what I mean, if I'm, if my lifts are going down or I'm getting fat, I'll have to post it. I don't want that somebody will be like group chats really handy. Um, even something like exercise classes, which when I was at pure gym, I never even knew about exercise classes, but for some people, you know, if they're too scared to go into, on their own, for a reason, they can come to that size class 11 in the third hour class for the people who have that social aspect, that you can get your friends every week also pretty fun. Um, and yeah, be patient, all that good stuff. And that's about it. I think how form a it as well. You know what I mean? Like it doesn't necessarily have to be lifting weights and you can get, if you enjoy college crack on, if you enjoy swimming really good form of cardio crack on. If you enjoy a bike or ident, you know what I mean? There's plenty of ways to skin a cat. Um, this doesn't have to be, you know, squatting silly rates on me and hurting my back and all that stuff. It doesn't have to be like that.

Brent:

You know, you, you make a really good point that like and I think this is true for Pokemon too. Cause uh, you know, I love the circular references like different people have different learning modes. Right. And like, that's, that's true for working out too. My, my wife loves, like, when she's working out at home with me, she loves for us to like bust out the P90X. Cause she likes watching the video and working out along with the video because it's similar to her, like going to yoga class and she likes like going to yoga class and being told, okay, now we're doing X now, do Y now do X now do Y. And like the nice thing about that peanut X stuff is like every lift is programmed. Every rest is programmed. Like, you know, they're just literally yelling at you telling you what to do. And she likes that like, bootcamp feel me. I it's easy for me to just work with like, here's the list of like, things you gotta do go bang it out. And as I was saying last week, I like, I like this like spreadsheet programs where they're like, if you lifted X last week, lift Y this week, you know, and

Shai:

Yeah, yeah, yeah,

Brent:

if you lift, if you lifted at 10 times the number of bumps of five, and if you listed at five times the number of bumps down five or it's flat or whatever it is, I don't like to think about like, oh, how was it last week? How am I feeling today? I want you to just tell me how much to lift. And I like come in and bang it out and I'm completely brains out about it. So different people have different ways that they like to do it. And you have to kind of mess around a little bit, maybe to figure out what your way is.

Shai:

A hundred percent, a hundred percent, not a different train. The styles I've done over the years, I've done naturally all of it, same with nutrition as well. I've done, you know, I've gone, I've done, I've done vegan for a bit. I've done vegetarian for a long time actually. Um, I've done intimate and faster and I still do that. Really? I've done. doing it all just so I can work out what's best for me. So now I know this is how I need to train. He said, if I keep it this way, I can get in the gym more often and just stuff like this. Yeah. Find what works for you. It doesn't necessarily have to be sort of an even spoke about today. It could be anything. It could be like going out on hikes or something. You know what I mean? If that's, if that's your way of burning calories and crack on

Brent:

you know, my, my wife got an apple watch for Christmas and she's all about like, filling those rings, filling those rings, holding those rings,

Shai:

I am always got something like that as well. I've probably got something like that though. Yeah.

Brent:

I watch it like me and it's a bully. It's always like, you need to stand more. And Mike is, you know, my wife's very short. I keep, I keep telling her, I think it doesn't realize you're standing, you know, you're very low to the ground.

Shai:

Funny story about I've got a fair watch over day, actually. Um, and yeah, one thing, I mean, it always says, you know, if I'm like in a video, it's like, get up and move. Now who you talking to? Who's the boss is that it's shut your mouth. But a lot of times I might have been recording a video, like a, game's going really close in the video and I've gone and checked the heart rate. And the heart rate is like

Brent:

It's skyrocketing. Yeah,

Shai:

playing

Brent:

know there

Shai:

you have fire. And the,

Brent:

there was an article making the rounds. Um, Mike, maybe you saw this about like ESPN interviewing like chess competitors about their workout programs and how like over the course of like a big, you know, a like chess round or something, people just lose like two pounds of weight. Cause they're like body is just like grinding as they try to make these huge mental decisions. And as a result now, all the like top tier chess competitors have these like complicated workout plans and cardio plans to try to like help them with their heart rate and all that stuff because you know, they, they recognize that you don't want to like run out of energy when you're in the middle of a big round.

Mike:

I mean, that makes total sense to me. yeah, I'm sure it happens to all of us in Pokemon events too. Like there's so many times at the end of a, an event where I'm just so exhausted and it's not just a mental exhaustion, it's a physical exhaustion too. So it makes sense.

Brent:

Can I ask

Shai:

say, you

Brent:

how much of this stuff, how much of this stuff is a problem for, for juniors and seniors? Like, I was felt like my, my kids could just play and play and play and play and play.

Kaya:

Uh, well, Uh, thing like juniors or seniors, we're only allowed to play like a certain amount of friends each day. So it doesn't take too long. But for example, when I played world's in 2019, we played like all the, uh, seven, uh, Swiss rounds and then top eight entered form the same day. And I think I came to the hall in the morning at like seven or 9:00 AM and left almost at midnight because it just took way too long. And I was exhausted after bed. I was so exhausted and like the top eight game of a day was probably the most important one and the most difficult one to play after the Swiss rounds, because I think I lost the first round of man had to win, tries to actually get two to four. And it was exhausting the entire day. I think sometimes when you're like getting to Tobago, it takes quite a bit of time, even when juniors and seniors play this first rounds, but it's still likes also.

Brent:

Yeah. I, I think you, you hit the nail on the head, like that's just another day at a regional, for a master's, right? Like, oh, you gotta play nine rounds. And like every round is going to totally matter, because if you're not 6, 1, 2 you're diet. Right.

Kaya:

Yeah. That's true. And like between rounds, um, like printing the pairings knowledge just takes up a lot of time. So like when a round goes 50 minutes, it takes over an hour for the next round to be printed and it's just a lot of time goes into it.

Brent:

Yeah. And I know it's like virtually a meme at this point where when people say, what should I do to prepare for my first regional they're like, bring water, bring

Kaya:

Yeah.

Brent:

water, birth

Mike:

bring a snack.

Kaya:

That's true.

Brent:

Like, it's nothing about like all the other stuff you gotta do. It's about like, don't run out of gas.

Kaya:

Yeah.

Shai:

I've always been one of the hardest things ever. I've played nationally basketball, you know, got decent lifts or long ones, or if they, one of the hardest things ever, right, is if you're a regional, you know, you eat gray, you can still cook top cutting. Now that's out around six, for example, and you're on six goes to time and you win or lose as a matter. Right? And then your next round is like straight after. You're like, Ooh, I've got any time to recover on this. You walk into my next table, like still frazzled. And then you find yourself in the next round thinking all discarded. This is, oh, no, no, no. That was last round. Oh my God. There's a merging together in my head. It's like, when you sit down and think about it, what are the times you have to literally concentrate nonstop for two straight hours. Even if you're playing a basketball game, you can go on the bench. You know, you can actually playing the full two hour buckets. Aren't even two hours anyway. But like, or if you work, work an office job, you get little great, you know, you can download usually when you're typing something, concentrate in hardcore for two straight out, or my goodness gracious. It just does my little head in honestly like,

Mike:

Yeah.

Kaya:

Yeah.

Brent:

it's interesting. I recognize that's another thing where it's like every, person's got a different way to kind of manage through that stuff. Like my, my oldest son he's so introverted, like when he finishes around, he just goes and like sits by himself and plays a video game on the switch for like 20 minutes. He's like, what I need is not thinking about anything or interacting with anyone or talking to anyone. Like, I don't need that. I know like it's very common. Like people go and talk to their friends about how their round went and all that stuff. My oldest is like, what I need to do is not talk to anyone.

Mike:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's so that's so interesting because there is like, for a lot of people, their natural inclination is to like, basically go and complain to their friends and they need, but, but it's like cathartic to them. They're not doing it to like, be annoying for the most part. It's just like their way of dealing with, you know, the nerves and the frustration and, and whatnot. But, Um, uh, so like my group of friends has always kind of been like that except for Ross Ross. It needs to like, kind of go and do his own thing, which, which is, uh, just learning what's best for different people is, you know, interesting. And in a way

Brent:

know bill and Brian was exactly the same way. Dylan, Brian was a big believer in like, after he load loses, he has to walk around without talking to anyone contemplating what just happened.

Shai:

Yeah.

Brent:

but, but oh, what was I, you know, I had some incredibly interesting and salient point to the moon.

Shai:

I was going to say for my microphone check release after rounds, um, it's always in the blog in between rounds. I'm like, well, I've just got spanked. I got to get this camera until everyone else about it. So, oh, I got, I left the wrong day. I just got dunked twice. Yeah. That's happy. Fun times. All right. And then yeah, then you get out. It's like, okay. Knock them. Relax and breathe. Yeah, man. There's arounds and regionals

Brent:

I mean, I, I think I I've told so many people probably everybody on the pod has heard me say it a hundred times, but like every time people say, dude, you should play at these tournament. You played these terms. I'm always like, man, it's too tiring. I don't know how you people do it. It's crazy. Like, it just looks like such a grueling beading, but oh yeah. The, the thing that I was going to say was the concern I always have is like that when my son walks away to go decompress, he'll just completely miss that on their own.

Mike:

Yeah.

Shai:

it's true, actually. Yes, that was very a couple of times when my favorite things I like about the region or even parents go up, I think in the, I dunno you can actually Krekeler, this is in the U S or they put like put parents like a lot online or like projected or something. Is that something that happens a lot?

Mike:

It depends on the event, local event. It's almost all paper regionals. Most of them have online, but not all of them.

Shai:

Okay. Cause always like it, we don't we'd have one line too often in Europe. Like when those pair of has got me, it's like right now, your American football line of scrimmage baguettes on a work your way for your life. And I'm like a pretty big either if I was like a little bit us first and I don't know what I'll be doing, but he

Brent:

I, I know, I know Kaia knows what I'm talking about, but really like the, the time there is when they post final standings for juniors,

Kaya:

Everyone goes to take a picture.

Brent:

it's like, it's like 60 little kids, all just like, like pilot. It's like rugby. It's crazy.

Kaya:

it's

Shai:

And then, and then you see like five to 10 of them just like pure bounds. And the other ones just like punching the floor, cry, like, nah,

Brent:

Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's completely voluntary. It's completely bonkers

Shai:

I forgot about.

Brent:

and any stuff I think everybody knows about, hi, Chuck, PTCG on Twitter and YouTube and stuff. What other stuff do you need to shout out?

Shai:

Well, other stuff, do I need to shout out? That's interesting. Um, if you like Pokemon stuff then definitely, probably just YouTube and Twitter to be facile about it. Oh, well, I am really, I'm looking to maybe start, get started streaming on Twitch. That's going to be some super fun stuff there. So if you want competitive stuff, go watch is all. If you want some funds or some crazy bunker stuff, maybe want to come lock that off as well. But yeah, if you like, I'm looking to get some more game show videos and more skits done. So if you like seeing that sort of stuff and hit a pot shot, PTCG on YouTube. And then if you want to see some like bad tapes and hopefully some funny stuff as well, hot job PTCG on Twitter. I think that's everything to be fair or maybe tip tacos off into that. But I don't really post that too often. Hydro PTCGO mostly memes and stuff that I

Brent:

Oh, your, your Twitter's great. You're trying to create if people aren't following, you know, Twitter or they're not doing the internet, right.

Shai:

Oh, two coins. You ought to know my business.

Brent:

Hi Mike. And any other stuff that we should talk about? Are you guys planning edge could be nearly tournament's coming.

Kaya:

I'll see, but they all start so late. So I don't usually have time to actually play them till the end. So I rather don't start.

Brent:

I liked your tweet the other day, where you were like, I'm going to start this tournament and then drop halfway through because

Kaya:

Yeah.

Brent:

it's already late at night. I was like that. That is how it is for Europe.

Shai:

Yeah, though, if there are any, uh, Tio is listening, I go in Europe. There's only one we can play in the opener. So if you don't want to play on Sunday, you don't want to play on the weekend. You're all. Look, you have stayed up till like 4:00 AM. Like, come on now. There must be so much ground. We can so out. Come on.

Brent:

And look at us recording the pot literally in the middle of the night for you guys. So

Shai:

Yeah, you go,

Brent:

true. The truth, right? Uh, you know, my Mike and I with the day jobs and, and Brit in a meeting right now, what the heck.

Mike:

Yeah. Yeah. I don't have a, I don't have any aspirations to play a tournament anytime soon to be honest.

Brent:

Are you just chilling and waiting for brilliant stars now?

Mike:

Yeah. I mean, I'll probably, maybe I'll play like a thing here and there with you, but not, not, not really going at it too hard.

Brent:

You know, I, I feel like my son's gonna make another run at it. Come brilliant stars because the carpool started getting big. And I for control universal

Shai:

know. It's going to be legit.

Brent:

that the Halliburton family is ready to play. Some Pokemon is when, when control is viable and format,

Kaya:

Seems good.

Shai:

It's going to be good. It's going to be good. It's going to be good. And in what? Listen, if you lose control, don't forget towards that. The problem take care. Um, keep it moving, know what I mean? Carl and Stein people that, and you feel the pain they'll. Come on now. Come on, come on. We're growing up saying we're growing up.

Brent:

guys, that's another pod in the books.

Mike:

All right. Good stuff.

Brent:

The power of not, not live streaming is will we just slap on a song at the end of the club? Couldn't be easier.

Shai:

Oh, is that, is that the outreach? That's all done.

Brent:

We're done

Shai:

Wow. That is cool. I like that.