The Trashalanche Pokemon Podcast

Tord as good as Mike?!? 2Jiggy???, Channel Fireball, Pikarom, Galarian Rapidash, Victini VMax, Rillaboom, Expanded, Expanded Orbeetle, Fall Pokemon Regionals?, Team Challenge, PC4, Grandmaster Sander

May 26, 2021 Brent Halliburton Season 1 Episode 42
The Trashalanche Pokemon Podcast
Tord as good as Mike?!? 2Jiggy???, Channel Fireball, Pikarom, Galarian Rapidash, Victini VMax, Rillaboom, Expanded, Expanded Orbeetle, Fall Pokemon Regionals?, Team Challenge, PC4, Grandmaster Sander
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The Trashalanche Pokemon Podcast
Tord as good as Mike?!? 2Jiggy???, Channel Fireball, Pikarom, Galarian Rapidash, Victini VMax, Rillaboom, Expanded, Expanded Orbeetle, Fall Pokemon Regionals?, Team Challenge, PC4, Grandmaster Sander
May 26, 2021 Season 1 Episode 42
Brent Halliburton
Transcript
Mike:

So I dust out my old laptop that had a bunch of crap on it, like cleaned it up the other day. And

Brent:

were you able to install PDC GL

Mike:

after a lot of hemming and hawing, but we got there thanks to, uh, that guy that posted that, using that like uninstaller program

Brent:

All right, guys. Uh, welcome to the Trashalanche. It's me, Brent Halliburton here as always with attendance is 100%. Our intro is the same every week. We have a five star review update guys, uh, is with, from Belgium tweeted or, or wrote on apple podcasts, top podcasts by top players. Well, not the discredit of the other guys. But Mike is on some kind of hot streak apart from some wrong takes on G two, which stands for Geraci and center road. Trevnoir MuTu the best competitive Pokemon podcast. I definitely have to agree with Mike's on a hot streak. I, I definitely appreciate the explanation of what G two actually stood for. I think he recognized, we, I think we went around and round on that. Did you guys actually know that? And we just wouldn't run around pointlessly

Brit:

no, I was just shaking my head at that revelation. I just said, it's just an acronym this whole time. For one it's like these are most of these cards are like, I don't know. These don't seem particular to this iteration of the deck. Like most of these cards, I'm just par for the course, for your MuTu deck, like you always play in center or you always play. And like the road on version from players key two or three, like play Trevnoir and obviously still too, I'm just so confused. Why out of a blue that just there's a new acronym decided to stick, but now we know

Mike:

and we know the more, you know

Brent:

at this moment when you said that Brit, that I realized that what I think we had the missed opportunity they had is, I mean, and this is like, this is underscores how dad I am, instead of Trevnoir it could have gone gang Gar, it could have moved the two to the front and then it would have been like the two jiggy deck. Yeah. I mean, there's, there's like, I mean, if we're just gonna like make up acronyms because in Santa Rosa, Val, we can make them like, Much worse, the acronyms. Why would they do that? I mean, as you said, featuring Geraci and incinerator in the list is not some like dumbfounding revelation here.

Mike:

I will give them a little credit though. Geraci is a little bit more prominent in this version because you use star search quite frequently. And I think this is really the first MuTu deck that utilized star search almost every game. So I'll give him that. So maybe Geraci makes a little bit of sense, but in center. Yeah. Yeah.

Brent:

Do we have any feelings on the wrong takes part

Mike:

I, mean, I don't know exactly what they're referring to.

Brent:

I, I think, I think we were saying, I assume we were saying that the deck goes not good.

Brit:

I don't think we've ever said it's not good. I think we've we've hold held strong that it loses to Pikarom, but I don't, I don't think beyond that, we've really had much to say other than, um, nominally about the name,

Mike:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't know how you could, I think, yeah. I don't know how you could argue that it's good against peaker AMR or it turned it to us. I feel like those are just clearly bad. Match-ups for the deck. Maybe, maybe that's what they're talking about. I don't know. but uh, like it seems like a pretty hard argument to win that you're solid. You're favorable against those two decks.

Brit:

Something we're not remembering and came off a little mean or something, but I, I haven't played it at all still. And I don't know if Mikey has either, but it's like, it's a very good deck. It's a, it's a very legitimate choice. I would say. You're you're LMZ matchup is just so good. And LMZ, as we may talk about throughout the episode today is clearly one of the best decks, but depending on who you talk to, it might even be the best deck and, you know, having a really good match if we get the best stack is probably a good thing to have. So, as we were closing in, on the, you know, the next stage of players cup four, I would definitely say it's something to consider. It's hard to know because it's where it's bad. Um, does tend to be pretty polarizing, mostly the Eternatus matchup. Um, and I just never know if that deck is going to show up or not anymore. I'm continually unimpressed with it. Um, but I just can never tell if people want to play it or not.

Mike:

Yeah, so, so I just looked up the, what was previously dyno data now it's called Treanor hill. Um, the data website. I just looked up the metal analysis to make sure I wasn't crazy. So the worst matchup from YouTube, you. On this is Eternatus MuTu wins 38 ish percent of the time. The next worst matchup is Pikarom and MuTu wins about 43% of the time. Um, and the only other unfavorable is the mute, the grass mute too, which is still pretty close to 50 50. But, um, so I feel like we're spot on

Brent:

um,

Brit:

sorry. I was just going to say, I don't know how like G two does against, like, and it just really can go for any of them. YouTube decks, like the MuTu decks that have to play against each other. Like when you have. Like Pikarom is always fine because you just so naturally go into your electric tag teams, but like in, for like the reboot MuTu deck, it's just like, your tech is so bad. I can Southern MuTu decks too. Um, cause you, you just have executor, whereas like at least the psychic that can, um, you know, attached to Trevnoir or something like that and figure a way out of it. So that would definitely be something I would like to know statistically like how it does against other decks before, um, I guess offering more of an opinion on how it does, but it seems good because you have Geraci obviously, and, um, these other ones don't for the most part, but I'm not sure.

Mike:

yeah.

Brent:

and the drag is weird and I match up, but like, if you have the drive to you have control over, like when it comes down, that seems really good. Right? I mean, your ability to like, try to kind of manage that. Match-ups pretty, uh, pretty good. Uh, this is what from Belgium. We appreciate it. They can Belgium. Love

Mike:

Thank you.

Brent:

Uh, uh, first thing I thought we should talk about is channel fireball. Mike, congratulations on written an article for channel fireball.

Mike:

Yeah.

Brent:

Uh it's about Pico rom. If people were wondering, what would Mike talk about if you were going to write an article on channel fireball? Hard to imagine.

Mike:

If you've been listening to the pod, there's not really too much in there that you haven't heard at some point. Uh, but it is nice to kind of be able to put it all in one spot and write it all down. Um, I think I did a pretty good job of analyzing the different match-ups the, you know, the, the list itself, I went in maybe too much, but I was trying,

Brent:

thought you'd spend more time on the list than the matchups.

Mike:

yeah, maybe that might be true, but it felt pretty 50 50 to me, I guess. I wasn't sure what the intended audience was. I don't, it wasn't sure if it was supposed to be intro players, medium players, like super competitive, obviously super competitive people. Don't really need that part of the article, but someone that's a little bit newer to the game might appreciate, uh, you know, the descriptions on why I'm choosing those cards. Hopefully the matchup section was enough to satisfy those people that are already quite competitive.

Brent:

Yeah. Uh, I, we're taking a moment to recognize channel fireball does help, uh, sponsor pod. They pay for our like posting software for our podcast and stuff like that. So that's very cool. We're gonna try and do more stuff with them in the future. It's neat that they ask us to write stuff for them. And, uh, uh, Caleb demonstrates his wisdom by reaching out to us to be, uh, uh, the official podcast. And people's a channel firewall, let's talk about, uh Gillary and rapid Ash, because glaring Rapidash is the meme that swept the weekend. Uh, did you guys have you guys played a lot against this Hilarion Rapidash thing?

Brit:

yeah, it's come up. It seems to be a little more prevalent in tournaments, but I've hit at a time or two. Um, I think just one time in keys, but then I've been practicing still here and there. Um, it's fairly, again, like my usual complaint that I never get real decks or real match-ups on rank mode, um, remains true, but, um, it's done really well. So I'm not too surprised that people are trying it more. I am trying to remember what the Twitter, I remember someone like. Cashed in someone traded for a million of them like two weeks ago and now has traded them all away for maximum profits. So it was a good card to stock up on for those reasons on the trading market?

Mike:

it was funny that, uh, I feel like a lot of players had the revelation at a similar time that glaring Rapidash can actually hit any Pokemon, not just the defending Pokemon. So that's a. You know, if you don't realize that you would vary, it's still like actually not a terrible card, even not hitting the bench Pokemon, but the fact that it can, I think ups its utility quite, quite a lot. I also didn't realize that until someone used it against like my bench

Brent:

until something terrible happened to

Mike:

Yeah, yeah,

Brit:

Yeah. I mean, That was my initial reaction. Like I said before every morning, I usually wake up first thing, scrolling through tournament results. And of course I see this the next day and I'm just like, how could, there's no way this can be good. How do you possibly have the time to do that? Of course not reading the card and assuming I just had to be active and just seemed that, like Mikey said, everyone just seemed to have that initial impression of it for whatever reason. And so, like I only, I only learned I was wrong because I got to watch Danny learn what it actually did, like live on stream. And so that was funny. And then I like interacted with in some tweets, Stephane, who I think similarly, just initially it was like, oh no, wait, no, this card is really good. It can hit anywhere. I'm on a wind streak. Now look at me, go like, so something to that effect, um, Well, yeah, it's a good card. I've been curious to see. I, it doesn't, it seems like it's kind of just settled down only to the Victini decks. I was curious initially to see if it would like maybe have a place. I know we call it tempos are Cracephalon but more so just kind of the current fire tool backs of the format. I was wondering if maybe we could have a spot, um, in the, in that deck, like maybe help you set up more Cramorant knockouts and I'm not sure it's not like that deck necessarily is really hurting for another option, but I was curious about that. Just sort of moving forward.

Mike:

so it's funny that you said that because I played in, uh, one of the tournament's last night, um, ahead, had. I don't know, maybe 150 or 200 people. It was pretty good sized tournament, 150 and I'd play it. That's exactly what I played. I played tempos, ARD, and I squeezed in one of the Rapidash I dropped down to one Cramorant and one Rapidash and then I got, I put a heat Tran in there as well. I feel like there's a lot of synergy between the Rapidash in key Tran, you know, Rapidash puts them to a hundred and then he Tran can preserve those energies that went on the Rapidash that otherwise would be pretty unusable. Yeah. Um, and it was pretty good. Um, I think the matchup that it helps the most in is the Eternatus matchup, because that's just kind of a tough matchup overall. Um, but if you're able to hit it, like one of the V maxes for a lot of damage, um, with that attack, uh, you're in a pretty good spot. One of the games I was able to hit two different V maxes. Before it went down and that, that was like a very easy win. Um, it seemed okay in the picker, I match up if you're able to hit a tag team or two, but that matchup just really bad anyway. Um, and I also got some use out of it against the grass MuTu deck as well. Um, so it's, I I'm interested to keep trying it, but I had the same thought branch. So I was like, uh, you know, let's try it. It's just kind of one, one extra tool in a, in that deck. And I think the tempos, our firebox deck is just better than Victini overall. Um, so w makes sense to

Brit:

my thoughts too. Most of the time I hit went on quite a bit of a streak. Um, couple of days, probably two or three days last week, I've just almost seemingly playing nothing, but Victini in my keys. Um, and yeah, Victini was just so rarely relevant. The games that I lost for it just kind of like, like they got the tempo, it was that it was exactly that it was the tempos are games. I got the early one and I just couldn't quite keep up. And the games were had to come down to Victini. It just doesn't quite get there a lot of the time. And obviously when you're playing a tag team Pokemon or like Zamazenta you know, that that's a bit, um, you know, not quite how all of Victini match-ups goes, but that was sort of where my logic was too, is that I would think that the tempos are, would just be the better deck. So like maybe it would have some utility in there. So that's interesting for sure.

Brent:

I know. I actually grinded a bunch of games this weekend for reasons that are difficult to explain, but I was, I was basically playing peek around and I bumped into the, uh, I played a couple of Victini decks and yeah, my impression is, uh, Victini is terrible. It gets big around because big around, like, it just struck me as like, it's like the biggest GX deck, maybe with the exception of like maybe two decks left in the format and the team. It just doesn't do that much. Even with Rapidash to help out. Like you just, uh, it just seemed under-powered. If they can't find their rushes or quickly, it's going to go bad.

Mike:

yeah, exactly. Pikarom is very good against the fire decks in general. And like, so it makes it, so I think rapid Ash really only has a place in these fire decks for two reasons. One, it has welder and there's really not another good way to power up rapid ashes attack very quickly. Um, and then the second one is more matchup based. The fire decks tend to, or especially tempos are maybe Victini a little bit less so, but they both struggle a little bit against Eternatus. And then both of them definitely struggle against speaker. Um, and in theory, Rapidash maybe makes both of those match-ups a little bit better. Um, I was really trying to make it in theory. I was trying to make a rapid strike deck with Rapidash cause in theory, that seems really good to me that you put two Pokemon to only a hundred HB left. You slap a karate belt and a rapid strike energy on and kill Boltund. Um, so, in theory, that seems really good to me, but when I thought about it more like the match-ups, that Rapidash is the best against you're already favored anyway. Cause you're Arisha food, like you're already beating Eternatus and peak her arms. Um, and the match-ups that you're worst against search of Fu or like LMZ and Rapidash doesn't do anything against LMZ cause they just put a metal goggles on their guy. so I think there's a lot of synergy there, but not like it's actually not useful in this metagame. So I think the fire decks are really where, uh, where we're going to see Rapidash pretty much.

Brent:

Um, so, so how'd your tournament go last night?

Mike:

I made top eight and then I lost, I lost to Eternatus and top eight. So still a rough matchup, I think not rough, but it's just hard. It's like maybe 50, 50 ish. Um, yeah,

Brent:

I mean, it sounds like from the sound of it, it sounds like you leaned on glare and Rapidash pretty hard. Would you put, would you ever consider running a second because you want to like, get that out there earlier?

Mike:

no, I don't think so. Like, it's nice to use, but it's not worth playing to like, you'd rather play two rescues aren't for sure. Like Russia is art is like one of the best, uh, it's still probably the best Pokemon and most match-ups to go in early with the awkward thing. Um, so like, I guess it turned, it says you actually can't go for Rapidash immediately because you can't hit the basic V. If you do that, you're only doing one 20. Which doesn't really set up numbers very well. Right? Like one 20. I mean, I guess like flair strike kills it then, but you really don't want to be attacking with pressure. Sorry. So like it's just weaker than Cramorant against the, like the basic V. Um, so yeah, so I don't, I don't think you had played to you. There's just so many other attackers that you need to be playing. I think I, the, the, the one thing I will say though, I played two cherish ball in a communication, and I could see maybe upping the Pokemon communication to just give you a couple more outs to find it

Brent:

Yeah. Like, I mean, I recognize you, you can say like, Eternatus the meth, isn't good. The insurance matchup it's like the bad matchup, but I just, like, my impression is if you don't find the glaring, Rapidash early, there's no point, right? Like. The value kind of goes away once you're like turned four or five, you've done whatever you're going to do.

Mike:

that's true. So I think, I think I've been the communication count would, uh, kind of be a medium. Solution end and, you know, it gives you more outs off stellar wish

Brent:

People be loving search

Mike:

Yep. So yeah, my only losses were two Eternatus and peek around my house twice to peek around and I beat a peek around, but like I got stamped at one, my, my win against Pete Graham. I got stamped tier one and I drew Dedenne a cherished ball. And so I cherished bald for Oricorio and then Dedenne like, so I was like, okay, this was nice.

Brent:

If we can't drive everything we need now we'll never drive anything we need.

Mike:

Right. Exactly. So like the peaker matchup still feels so bad, man. So

Brent:

I like my impression is the, uh, uh, the way they lose it as if they over benched. Bolton's like like they can walk into like the max is destroying them if they just like really hand it over. But if they, if they understand how to play the matchup, it's really bad.

Mike:

Yeah.

Brent:

Um, it's probably worth mentioning, uh, at cache the book is that people put together a nice graphic that said Victini V maximum one more tournaments, uh, over the weekend than any other deck, like by a mile, like, like a little further down on the, uh, Google

Mike:

I see that

Brent:

Uh, um, I assume this is so does this swing the matter does this, the result that people play more big around.

Mike:

maybe. I mean, I think part of it is just like the newness effect. Like Victini is a pretty good deck and it's still got, and it got boosted by Rapidash for sure. But I think everyone saw that there's this shiny new deck with a new card in it. That's pretty good. So let's play it. And I think probably it'll even out a little bit starting this week.

Brent:

ADP and LMZ with no wins. I feel like, uh, last weekend we were last week we were talking about LMZ and LMZ had a very middling performance.

Mike:

I mean, it makes sense, right? If fifty-nine is the most successful decks then Yeah,

Brent:

everybody's playing fire. Oh, how about that?

Mike:

Yeah. That and the Victini has a lot of options against LMZ too. Right. Um, they can go to the VMX and then if they try to always as into the basic Victini has a really great attack to combat that. Um, they haven't and I actually, the, the popular Victini lists have also been playing at Geraci scoop up net package. So if they want to fit a guarantee now, and it's like super easy to do that? Um, Yeah. So it makes sense that as Victini goes up alums, he goes,

Brent:

Yeah. And the last thing I wanted to comment about was, uh, I saw, or I guess actually there's two things. So one is, um, new to really boom, uh, uh, got five top fours and six top eight. Uh, did that do in your mind, is that like going up or going down? I feel like, like my personal feeling was last week. We gave people the secret, they needed to beat the spec every time, which is just like,

Mike:

no, that's such an interesting deck. like, I feel like we've talked about it. Like we talk about in our group chat a little bit. I think Danny messaged us this morning or yesterday and was like, this deck is so bad, but then I, and we'll get into this in a little bit, like toward, and Robin got like a hundred and they're, they're in top three of Europe's leaderboards and I'm pretty sure they like, almost exclusively played this deck.

Brit:

yeah, for me, I mean, I think, like you said, we'll probably get into this before too long anyways, but for me it's so obvious, just like, almost like a humbling moment. Like, I, I truly don't get it, but I'm just willing to believe that it's that, you know, I don't get it and it's a fine deck and I'm missing a few odds and ends to it too. But I just thinking about the, um, one of the games that Danny described in our chat and for me, that is just sort of my exact experience, like at least playing against the deck so often. And so he's describing this game, I think he was watching Igor play, um, towards the end of his keys and, you know, just nothing happens the grill of one player. Like doesn't do anything the entire game, but just happens to have the stamp when they need it. And hasn't played a draw supporters the entire game and just has the stamp to, to at the right time and makes it come back, like off it. And like, that's just, that's just what happens to me. It's these games where, um, They don't do anything somehow they've done nothing, but play one Guzman hallah, one tag call. And that's it when they just have every card they've ever needed. Like sometimes too, like they, they haven't even played it at DNA yet. And they just have the boss for a game, like naturally, like I, that I do feel like those are my experiences so often against the deck. And I do think it has a really good deck. I'm not sure how, um, the Victini this newer Victini met a game really will affect it. Um, I know they're, um, more consistently playing like weakness card energy. So I would think that Victini matchup is probably fine really, um, gear some YouTube heavy anyways, from YouTube being attack team. I would think the matchup is okay, but I'm not sure.

Mike:

yeah, it's, uh, like I played it for four or five of my keys and I did well with it and there's definitely lots of thought provoking plays that you might need to make. But yeah, I do feel like there's just. You just, you just sometimes have it. It's just, it's such a weird deck to play. Cause you don't draw that many cards. Like there's the three or four Marnie's that you play and then you have your Dedenne and Crobat, and that's it. And otherwise it's just searching out stuff and you're kind of like, well, I'm just going to keep searching out stuff. And then I have 25 cards in my deck and I play my DNA and I hope I hit the one card that I'm looking for. And if you do, you win the game and if you don't you it

Brent:

I mean, the good news is there's no energy in your deck. So like,

Mike:

right. But, and then there's also like the little things that can go wrong. Right? Like you can, and I know you talked about this a few weeks ago. Like you can prize one of your stage ones or stage twos and then draw the other one or you have to discard one of them on turn one with three Dedenne. And like there's a lot of little things that can go wrong with the deck that will just hamper your setup. And if those don't happen, you know, you're, you're, you're. Good, but

Brit:

Yeah. And like, because you see, so few cards, like your, your, your turns are very formulaic for the most part. Like you go, you tag call queues, Mahalla turned one and you just kind of complete the puzzle. You might, you'll probably have one or two pieces in your hand and you, you, you figure it out, um, with, um, you know, you might need an air balloon or something like that to get the executor, but you usually have all the cards for it. Um, but then after that, usually because you don't draw cards, like on top of the accidentally drawing your evolutions or discarding them, it's on time. I would so consistently, like, So you like maybe, maybe you hit the promised land, you hit this wonderful opening hand where you have like a capture energy and a quick ball or something. And you just, you, you so wonderfully are able to get two of the grip keys on your bench. So that's just like that. This was my problem. I think just as much as evolving is that you're you're, you don't see very many cards. Your turns are formulaic. There's so many different moving pieces that you need. And so you only get one, um, Gerkey down and then you evolve it and then I guess, knock out the next turn. Like they just didn't go turn to Full Blitz or something like that, or I'm not folded, so it would have to be tagged bold. Uh, and the, and then what, like, and then you have to then find the Gerkey and then evolve again. And then you're just out of the game. At that point, you don't have the time to use a lowland executor as executor and rabbits attack twice. Um, so like, I, I just, I'm not quite sure how they pulled it off, so it consistently, but, um, it is, it's a good deck when these things don't happen to be sure.

Brent:

And then, uh, the, the Philippines open was won by cinder race BMX.

Brit:

I saw that it was the V max. I saw that in the results, but I didn't, I didn't dive further into it. So I wasn't sure if it was the VMX or the, the stage one or the stage two. What does the VMX do again? Doesn't it just like one 16 burn or something like that?

Mike:

let's see.

Brit:

I don't remember. I've played against it a time or two.

Mike:

Yeah. One, one 70 in burdens for three. Uh, yeah, there's nothing. I mean, this is just like, I'm looking at the list. It looks just like a fire toolbox list with cinder ACE instead of Blacephalon or instead of Victini. Um, it's got, it's got like one double when he tried one rashes, ARD, one glary and Rapidash et cetera. I mean, I like, you got a lot of HP. Three 20 is definitely a lot of HP. But why is a good question? I don't, I don't know, like, what is it helping against that other cards are worse off against, I mean, looking at its matchups. Well, so we played against real decks and Swiss, but then in top eight he played single strike straight Blowns and then a single strike again. So it'd be two. single strikes in debate.

Brit:

probably, probably not a whole lot more to stay there then.

Brent:

All right. Let's let's talk about expanded for a second then guys.

Brit:

yeah, I think it is. I think we lucked out last week, ran out of time, just in set it on, set it on the back burner for this week. And it just seems like. Um, everyone is just equally frustrated. Now you're kinda Mike sentiments from a few tournaments ago, seem to be a little more the loud in the, in the echo chamber of the Pokemon community. Um, I'm not sure if there's too much more like beyond that, and I'm just, I've looked through the results a few times and, um, it just seemed to be like controls tournament to lose, for sure. Like obviously they it's colossal getting second, but, and I know, I know Danny had a good tweet about it and that's maybe, maybe where we could start, um, addressing things. But do you have any sort of initial takeaways Mikey beyond, um, just maybe, maybe some things we've already known for a while now.

Mike:

so I just pulled up like a wall stalls. Match-ups real quick just to see, like what, what was it actually losing too? Um, and pretty much it only solidly loses too. I don't know how it lost him MuTu and you so many times. Um, but other than that deck. All the other things that it like consistently losers to, or pretty hard counters to it. So like the bronze song deck that, um, that I think Stefan brought, something like that, that's pretty good against it because it recurs energy. It can play some plate, a bunch of Z, so pretty hard counter, um, Raul egg, really boom, pretty hard counter. Like you, they often play vile, put them into item, lock the opponent, and then you have really boom. You can attack stuff. You play a Zs and loosen me. And it's pretty hard counter. Um, And then Sanders or beetle deck, which we can talk a little more about obviously pretty hard counter and then like everything else, even other decks that you would think like, should obviously beat this, like drag a pole. Garbodor like, it w when unfavored against it, but it beat it still like 30 ish percent of the time. And then it beats basically everything else. Um, and so just this, this tells me that, like, you have to like play something that is a very good against the, the stall deck and probably not that good against other decks in the format in order to like really beat it. Um, like there's no way this bronze on deck is good. Again, something like peek around. Right. Um, so yeah. Yeah. Oh two again, to pick her up and pick her, I was like the best. Like, you know, attack one of the best attacking decks. So you can't like you have these two extremes and maybe that's part of the issue too, is that you have these like very wide extremes that you kind of have to cover. And, uh, they're very polarizing. You can't, you just can't do it and make it, So, that, that, that I'll leave it at that

Brent:

so can you guys explain Sandra that to real quick? I have to be honest. I haven't actually looked at the list. All I know is like get or beetle out and then like get out crazy stage, choose to do wacky stuff. I assume

Mike:

yep. So I'll read off all of the stage twos that he plays. So he plays both vial plumes. So the basic no attack item lock one, he plays stout Lind. So no supporters. He plays pheasant from roaring skies, which is for a triple color list, shuffle all yeah. So basically all energies. Yep. Um, he plays the Gloria and Obstagoon that discourage your point attempt to four, but he said he actually uses that to attack mostly against drag a pole. Um, it does, I think, like 80 for a triple color list or something like that. Um, and then he plays dual brains. Oh, oh, 180, sorry. 180. The Obstagoon does. So at one shot, say, uh, any dragon Pope, the max, um, it plays dual brains, magnet zone. He plays ages slash from, uh, or rebel clash. I think it's like minus 30, all your Pokemon take minus 30. And he plays Dusknoir that makes special energy into nothing. So it is a control deck that my, like I presumably based on the matchup, you want to prioritize different stage twos. Um, I think if he wants to start taking prizes, he can. With stout Linde, I would, my guess would be the primary attacker, uh, because if you put, so, so think about this, right? Any plays, a silent lab. So if he wants, you can stop them from playing items, supporters, special energy and abilities. Like all of them can be shut off at once. Uh, which is pretty funny to think about. And then Stalin can start just like hitting for whatever it does, 80 days. Yeah. One cool interaction that I saw. It's not that like impactful, but it was cool. I didn't think of it. If you put a triple energy on the orbital, obviously you get three Pokemon, but then if you pick Dusknoir I was one of them, the triple energy stays on and counts as one energy. So that's kind of cool to preserve a little bit.

Brent:

fascinating.

Mike:

Yeah. Um, I think dual brains is like really important to get out probably in a lot of match-ups. So you can cycle a loose amine and another supporter. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was really, I watched him play a couple of games cause he streamed a little bit of it. Um, and it was, it was fun. It was definitely fun to watch.

Brent:

it is as strange have dual brains never really found its place in the meta, like such a good card.

Brit:

Yeah, it seems like, it seems like the one that like, probably could have, I remember at the flight deck, I really remembered with, it was like, you know, there was. There is a time and expanded, or you could kind of play anything with seismic tones are like all the various options are viable. And I remember this was one of them. I think of that a Dallas regionals one year, like I-Corps almost played

Brent:

uh, yeah, I was going to say Penn Darvis and Igor were the guys running

Brit:

I remember chip Richie played it, I think. Um, or they almost played it. I can't remember how it went down, but I remember that was their like busted deck for the event. Um, 10.

Brent:

Igor has given us the list and we tested it and we were like, it doesn't seem busted enough. And that yeah. And I think they all, like, we, we, when we went back to whatever we were playing by like 8:00 PM because I had children and like, they got to go to bed now, like at three in the morning, they all switched to whatever, like the super deck of the tournament was.

Brit:

Yeah. So it was Drampa they probably switched to Drampa guard. Maybe it was a Dallas, the Dallas tournament. And that might be the right timeline there. I'm looking at the list and I am, I have a couple of questions. I did. I actually watched them swim stream a couple of games too, but it was, um, towards the end, I think it was just like right as he was losing in top eight. Um, so you usually win through deck out, I would guess.

Mike:

I think so. Yeah.

Brit:

Yeah. Cause I was just thinking there's not enough because we've mentioned attacking that you just don't have enough energy recovery to like ever really. Be aggressive about that. I would think like, cause like even it was styling, you just probably you'd run into worry of maybe knocking yourself out at a certain point, if that's your most reliable damage.

Mike:

right. That's true.

Brit:

Well, actually, no, I take that back, but um, would the age of slasher the Luke metal, would that stop that w do those reduce self damage? I don't remember.

Mike:

Hmm. I don't think Luke metal does.

Brit:

think Lucario

Mike:

Asia slash doesn't either. I

Brit:

Okay. So nevermind. I thought maybe that was the loophole. You eventually sweep doing 90 attorneys, but yeah. Um, yeah, it seems really good. I, it doesn't, I don't know how sort of, um, enamored was with the tech Sander. Was he, he, he had a sort of write up after his tournament was concluded and he's lost two at Pikarom in top eight, I believe. But it was, um, if I recall correctly, just kind of some non games, it wasn't an issue of a bad matchup or anything like that. He just like, didn't get set up. I think he just kind of noted that that was just expanded for a certain, a certain amount of the times just goofy wild west format or something to that effect.

Brent:

so do you guys think that the Metta just continues to evolve into this like hard counter Snorlax? Like, like, is it, is it just going to be this bifurcated, like half the people are going to play a smart lights troll and have people going to play decks, like just brutally hard counter it.

Brit:

I think so too, like bring Danny's tweet up. I forget exactly how he words it, but essentially if you're, if you're not one of these like hard counter decks, if you're saying playing something like peak around one of these mid range, more like accurately options you have available to you and expanded, um, you can play, like, I forget what it was. It's been on B like draft rig and a Z or something like that. It's three specific cards you have to play to maybe beat the control deck. Um, And that's just like, yeah, that just seems like too polarized. Like, I mean, from, from, uh, the perspective of the deck builder, I'm not sure like what I would do. Like it it's a lose, lose kind of scenario, I think, but from a more overlooking view, just talk, thinking about like the game health and the meta game at large, it just, neither of the options seem good. Cause like both of like Sanders deck or to control the deck are both kind of just very oppressive and different ways. Posts sort of just coalesced around not letting your opponent play the game. Um, and if that's all, if that's all the format can offer, um, I'm not sure what really, um, it just sounds pretty, pretty dangerous. I would think like I don't, I can't imagine many people are going to travel across the country to play in a regionals where they get to choose, you know, one of these three kinds of decks.

Mike:

I'm looking at, uh, one of. So one of the other things that I saw come out of this tournament was the increased use of Marnie and expanded. I feel like Marnie hasn't really seen that much play and expanded, but, uh, it's starting to see an uptick in dragon ball. Garbodor there was some peak rounds that played one of Marnie, and I'm looking at an ADP list that did pretty decently. They made day two, um, maybe top 16 or so, and they ran for Marnie. Um, and they still lost to the wall style with four Marnie ADP, which seems unbelievable to me. I feel like, like if you're, if you have Altered Creation taking two prizes and you get to Marnie, like control deck, every turn, you should definitely win. But, uh, I guess not

Brent:

Yeah. Maybe I wonder if that, how much that depends on, like, obviously they have to draw. Okay. And obviously the guy has to not find like a million dollars, because like, if he's finding dolls is just putting pressure on you to like play bosses. Right. I think it's the lockup before you play the bosses, then he's like, okay, we're going to do this thing now. Right.

Mike:

Yeah,

Brent:

But, uh, yeah. It's brutal, brutal out there people. Um, it'll be, it's definitely gonna be interesting. I think we all anticipate, um, and you know, I, I, this is just an assumption. Maybe we should talk about it for a second. Um, I think my assumption is come August. Pokemon is going to announce like a regular schedule.

Mike:

that is my assumption too. I'm not a hundred percent sure about the fall. Like when in the fall it will start. Maybe it'll be right in September, but I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if like they pushed back the first regional to like November or something like that. Um, but yeah, I I'm anticipating relatively normal schedule. Yeah.

Brent:

right. Have you thought about this at all?

Brit:

Yeah, I have, I've seen speculation here and there. I, I don't know what to expect. I would, I wish we had maybe some other examples to draw from like other games decidedly coming back with a more schedule. Um, um, everyone seems to be in a similar point where it's clear, like we made it, you know, the lights at the end of the tunnel. We're going to get real events again soon, but I don't think there's anything really set in stone beyond that. I've seen some of the speculation I've seen was maybe, um, a little far. I, I I've seen her. I saw at least a thought here or there that said that we wouldn't be physically back playing again until. 2022, um, sometime, and I couldn't maybe see that like, um, from like a planning perspective, I think that would make sense. But in, in terms of like, I don't know, I don't know, like, would you want to do with them? It just seems like it would change, um, how the, the game has been structured, how the competitive seasons have been structured forever. Um, and I would think they would just maybe try to keep it consistent and try to get us started, like in the fall again, like, I don't know if they would want to do like a reduced season or bring, bring us back and try to like, finish what they started this year with like the points still being good for London and just throwing us in the middle of the qualification period again, like I'm really not sure. Um, I'm not sure what I would prefer either. Um, I think

Brent:

think you make an interesting argument. Like, it's a good point that, uh, I mean the decision makers are in Seattle. I wonder if that means they're like more slow roll and like, we can all agree if, if TCI was based in Arkansas, the season would already be starting, right?

Brit:

Yeah.

Brent:

Like, like there's definitely different feelings in different parts of the country in America. And like, I think Seattle is probably, uh, more conservative than other places. Uh, uh, yeah, like my feeling is like three months from now. They would be confident saying two or three months from now. We can, we're going to start. And here's the plan. I mean, I hope, I guess my big hope is. W I, I, I think everybody felt like I was doing a better job every year, the last like five or six years of like, they announced all their regionals in August, like the last time around. And we were all like, yay, man. It was a parent that I was like, yay. I'm sure Mike is like a teacher. You were like, holy cow. I could actually try to plan some trips. Uh, you know, like three or four years, like four or five years ago where it was like, you'd find out the schedule for a month. Like two weeks before that month. It was absolute chaos every time

Mike:

The first year that I came back to playing competitively, we didn't even know how many championship points you would need to qualify for worlds until like November or December or something like that.

Brit:

Yeah, I hadn't even thought about it. That you had that what a nightmare that's going to be, because I'm sure there will never be like a nationwide rule or precedent. It's always just going to be down to the state and down to the organizer to try to figure this out. So I like this, so I was just, um, I've been doing some, some traveling and it's just like, it's inconsistent going from here from where I am in Oklahoma to where I am in Kansas city. Like in Oklahoma, we don't need masks at all anymore, but like it's a coin flip depending on where you are in Kansas. So every time it was just like, what do I need to do? I need to do I need that, you know, they keep it having to keep it in your pocket. And so I imagine that will be, um, kind of a lot of what it'll be like getting events started again. I imagine there will be no sort of, well, I mean, I guess Pokemon themselves could release rules and then you just, as a Tio, don't have, it doesn't matter what your state allows or something at that point, you can't sanction your, then if you don't do this or that. So I guess they'll probably have to do that then don't they.

Brent:

I am sure. They're just going to do whatever this lady tells them to, but you make a good point. I wonder if like the barrier to publishing a schedule in August or September is too saying we have a plan. Here's the plan. And then, and them agreeing to it. I wonder if it's possible for tos to pull together a plan right now. I wonder if they're asking kilos to pull together a plan

Mike:

yeah, it's still like Yeah. And that's kinda why I was anticipating maybe like, It might get pushed back a little bit into the fall. Like even if conditions are good enough, it's still like an somewhat uncertain time right now, maybe in like a month or two, it'll be a little more stable and they will be able to make those plans. But I would be surprised right now if they're, they're able to, on the other hand though, I I've been surprised. I have seen quite a few advertisements for big music festivals that are gonna happen in like September. Um, and so those are clearly being put together, so

Brent:

Yeah. But, uh, yeah, I, uh, I just wonder if when both the moms can tell the CEO is typical with together. I mean, although I'm sure, like, I'm sure if you're the correct leaders you're raring to go, like, those are the phone calls you want to make. Right. I mean, Jimmy Ballard, like, I'm sure he is like, yo, I want to run tournament's let's run tournament.

Mike:

yeah. Yeah. For sure.

Brent:

Um, um, team challenge, top four stream coming up this weekend, right?

Mike:

Yeah,

Brent:

Yep.

Mike:

really? No, that much besides that,

Brent:

Jeremy and Allen and, uh, Kyle staple house will be commentating. I think that's what we know.

Mike:

Yeah. I wonder if it's, I assume it's like a prerecorded thing again. I really don't know for sure, but that would be my assumption at this point. Um, but I guess what I meant is we don't really know what teams are in it. They like, they, they publish the page that have like the information, but they didn't say anything about who the teams are. Not even the themes of the stories. I don't even think.

Brent:

yeah. Uh, you know, uh, for, for all of the, we're trying to build up the local game stores with, uh, by doing things challenge, nobody should local game stores,

Mike:

Yeah.

Brent:

but this is the same as the exact same trick they pulled with, uh, uh, you know, the players cup, like why not market the players? Why not have some mojo? Why not have. Kyle, uh, uh, you know, calling, uh, whoever's in the team challenge and then like posts some, uh, like chat would watch that, right?

Mike:

yeah.

Brit:

so I think, I think our, you know, what, what we've said about the team challenge, being an enjoyable format. And like regrettable, regrettable circumstances. I don't think that's really an opinion, you know, unique to us or anything like that. From what I can tell, that's the community opinion of all the people that got to participate in this first one. I don't quite know how the second one is going, but everyone was like, yeah, that was fun. If only we could just choose our teams ourselves. Um,

Brent:

Hill. If you guys need people interviewed on a podcast, we are happy to step in. I know the Pokemon podcast is taking a back seat. As we dominate the podcast market. We can fill that we can fill gaps for you. So I know you guys had mentioned before the pod that Sander had retweeted Pokemon tweeting, that this was happening, uh, is our working theory that Sanders in the top four.

Brit:

I think so, like, because he had posted that he was still in the top 16, I think. Or am I misremembering? Maybe he got eliminated and put, and that's when he was posted about being in the top 16.

Brent:

So, so here's my question to you guys is standard deploying like a bridge strategy and like his entire team is going to show up with some wacky Munchlax control and

Brit:

I assume, I assume he just is the only one who shows up with it and no one can beat it. Like I just like that on its own seems like a really good strategy. Like his aggregate has to be so good.

Brent:

oh, I will. I'm sure. I'm sure. Just like you put Sander in, you get three wins. You're like, okay. So we're off to a good start. The question is, is he, as his, as he told his team, guys, we're just going and heavy. I will guide you to victory. Get on the discord.

Brit:

bring, yeah, bring four control

Brent:

Yeah. Yeah.

Brit:

I will do my best to

Brent:

60 it's the Sanders 60 or, or will his whole team play diverse tax? That's my question is. All control or mixed decks.

Mike:

I would guess to mix decks. but I would love to see all control.

Brit:

It'd be like those, uh, you know, the chess grandmasters who can play, you know, however many people, however, many people you can fit around them at once. It would just be, be like that. But Clayton control the whole time that'd be, that would be an

Brent:

You have to imagine that Kyle and Jeremy would love commentating. Like yeah. Uh, the, the, like, what's, what's funny is I think every commentator except me, he gets so salty. When they're told they have to complicate control games. I'm always like let's calm and take control games. I don't know. I think that's because when I'm commentating, my questions are always like, so what would you do here? Like how would you play this matchup? What deck would you have played at this tournament? Like, I'm like, let's talk about everything, but what's going on in the game. plays to my strengths. So, uh, uh, whoever's in the team challenge. Uh, good luck if it's Sander, good luck to you. If it's other people good luck of meeting Sander. Um, let's talk about that players cup for, for, uh, uh, two seconds, Mike. Congratulations. You, you got there.

Mike:

It did. Yeah. I forget where it was last week at founder's number one and a, or just a, like almost

Brent:

waiting to play the last key, right? So you weren't, you were number one in a, and the question was, would you be one 65 or would you

Mike:

Okay.

Brent:

somewhere between one 60, one

Mike:

Yeah. So I, for the last like five days or four or five days, I've been the sole number one of in, in the world. And unfortunately today toward tied me, which is a little disappointing, but obviously I I'll I'll take that company.

Brent:

Yeah. Toward you're as good as Mike. Good

Mike:

Yeah. Um, so that, yeah, that's pretty cool. Um, and so he toured his number one, obviously in Europe, but. Right. You 11, who is also known as Robin Schultz is number three in EU with 160 points. And like we said before, presumably they both played the MuTu relo, boom, deck pred predominantly I think toward did tweet that that's what he played. And I think Brett correct me in Danny's little message to us. Igor's playing against Robin. Right?

Brit:

Yeah, I think

Mike:

I believe so. So, so yeah, so. they both did it exceptionally well with the MuTu relive them deck Let's just talk logistics a little bit. So it looks like 93 points I believe for will be the cutoff. Um, so that's good to know the next phase. So like the Swiss round phase will be on June 19th, so that's still three weeks away, three and a half weeks away. So we still got a while until that next, uh, that next step. Um, So the format's not going to change before then. I think chilling rain comes out the day before that event. And, uh, the, the most interesting thing will just kind of be. How and how much rapid SUV affects the meta-game. Um, cause we got a couple more weeks of people trying things out. Maybe that, like I said before, that I think only welded X can really make use of it, but I could be wrong. Maybe there's stuff maybe like gets put up in the real boom deck that could be. So I feel like there's some, there's some time to explore a rapid SV and how it fits into our Metta.

Brent:

So the other thing I wanted to ask you guys was like, I tried to go back and look at, um, how many people got to like various point totals, because I recognize this is one of the few situations where you see and everybody in the world was in the same pot. Um, and I want to see if there was any conclusion. So we had 37 north American players that got over 120 points, 26 EU players that got over 120 points, 12 Latin American players and zero Australian players. Now I feel like it's zero Australian players because the Australian players, like once they got to 60, they were like, well, I'm in, like, I wonder if they're really good players, like a Henry brand, even bothered to play all his keys. Like I know he could have gotten 60 or 70 and like his first 30 keys and then been like, we good people. But, uh, um, but I think that was a little surprise to think that, uh, whereas I think the north America, there were like a lot of people trying really hard to get as many points as they could. We only got to 37 and Latin America were a far lower total lock you into the next round. Only like 12 players were able to get over 120. Does that speak to just like how good the community is? And like, like you go Casa ragas competition actually interesting point, I guess when I say over 120, I mean, I arbitrarily picked 120 as a high number. That was really, really hard to get. Like you had to be a really good player to get there, to stop a lot of that. 119. So

Mike:

Hm

Brent:

what I was looking on the line, I was like, Hey, I know that guy, but, uh, know, like I think I was originally thinking I was going to make some points, which is a point that I think I've made before. We'd go through these players cups things where like, maybe it demonstrates that north America has more hop level players than other countries, but other countries players are, you know, there, there are players that are just as good as ours. Like I look at this and I think, I don't know, man, 12 Latin American players compared to 37, like that's a lot more Latin American players than I would have expected.

Mike:

yeah. And it also correlated to like what you said with the players know more or less. Where they're qualifying numbers are going to be. And so at a certain point, they might just pack it up. I mean, even like, uh, we were talking to Luke Morissette earlier today. He didn't play his last 10 keys, even him. So I think a, a lot of people might just not do that. There's the, for me, for me personally, it was just like, it was more fun to play. It was more competitive to play keys than it was to play ladder. So like that it was part of the reason that I kept playing. Um, cause I felt like I got better practice. And then at some point I was just like, well, you know, I'm doing well, so I should go for number one.

Brent:

right, right, right. The, the, I just had six first places in a row. Maybe I should keep playing these keys. Yeah.

Mike:

But, but you know, people that are kind of in this middle phase where, you know, they, they reached their threshold and then they lose a couple keys and they're like, well, you know, can't really not really playing for anything. And maybe my time's better spent doing something else. So, um,

Brent:

See, but I would have assumed that that was like normally distributed across like the globe. And as a result, I would have seen like, like, why would it, why would Latin American players try to get over 120? Whereas like a ma you know, like there's the number of us players motivated to get over 120? I felt would have been in some way, like a similar distribution compared to Latin American players in some way to get over like a lower goal. So the fact there were so many Latin American players,

Mike:

right.

Brent:

uh, it made me think Latin America better than I thought.

Mike:

yeah, I do think, and I think these, these online tournaments have shown us that the Latin American scene is pretty strong

Brent:

Brett? How things end for you? You want to talk about that for a minute?

Brit:

I didn't finish my keys. I, I sat down and well, I, which again, not that I didn't know, choosing not to, would it be some, some amount of self-sabotage, but I just, uh, looking at it now, I probably would have qualified. I was sitting at like 60 points, 60 something points with about 18 keys left. Um, Um, I just sat down and I just been, I don't know why you guys, um, have been very patient with me. I've just been something about this whole process has just been very difficult. I'm just so quick to be frustrated with it. And I just like sat down to play my like last 20 and had just two great losses then top eight, where like one of them was just like, we're we, maybe we can talk about, or maybe mention this just because Mike Mikey had a tweet about, um, w w that ended up being kind of a big brain, like nuanced way to, to start peaker, um, to start a peaker on game, which I don't think I would have done. So the scenario was like, what do you do here? You have the option to choose between starting with your draw, quote, one of your drop Pokemon, um, or a peaker on. And so for Mikey, um, and presumably just in general, objectively, the correct answer is to start, um, with your draw program on as regrettable as that might be. You still have a higher percentage of getting through the bolt-on. So that's why you do at Ray's. If you start for the, um, um, you, you have at the very least need a switch. Um, so I remember seeing that and being like, oh yeah, I would've done that wrong. I think I would have started for Pika. And like, I would have even gone as far as to like, um, dig for like balloon attach and then I'll also get cocoa off that turn and that's how I'll get the Boltund. So

Brent:

did. I mean, I can, I can like Crobat and then to Denny, I'm going to draw so many cards. We'll find the

Brit:

exactly. You have both of them. They'll Crobat you Crobat for one or something and hopefully it's really good.

Brent:

was going to burn all my

Brit:

you discard their ass.

Brent:

Let's dig, digging for the switch.

Brit:

Don't. Yeah, but no, but anyways, so I had to finish Mike, his tweet. He still got more wild with that and he still got some, got more wild, even though I've been choosing to start to DNA, which presumably your opponent would see that and be like how clearly his only Pokemon. Right. So that happened to me actually, too, for whatever reason, I just immediately got more wild. Um, and then the next game, what happened? Um, So something just to have Spinall and menial I'm sure. But I just, like I said, that was it. I don't, I've got better things and I was like, I was going out of town for the weekend and it would have been like, I had to play a lot and, uh, uh, very concentrated sitting and I just, I just wasn't feeling it. I know I'm not great. And I just didn't want the results to indicate that another time. Um, we'll see. Um, but I just chose not to finish them, uh, after lots and lots of frustrating starts. I just like, again, I'm not trying to say that I'm a good player or anything like that, but I can just look at this data. And I just like, all my, I just lost in top eight more than ever before. And I just like, I don't know what to say beyond that. Like in theory, that should be my best performance of the three and it was pretty close to my worst. So.

Brent:

I, you know what it's uh, um, so I played, I played a couple of keys over the weekend. Cause as I said, an explicitly, I put a bunch of Pokemon and I, I felt like, I mean, I know, I always say every time I play, it's like a Brit like experience, but I know I was messaging you guys. I mean, I played my first key with Pika didn't play sport or all game, just like, uh, drew cards until a rapid striker. Should food destroyed me, uh, that I played like, uh, my second key and had like, uh, didn't play, draw support the entire time. And I know how you feel Brit. I was like, this is just variants. It's gotta be variants. There's just no way on earth. It's not very, it's

Brit:

I had a really good, so I guess maybe to talk a little bit more when I was playing, I ended up playing mostly Luke metal for these lat, the last, um, I guess from, I went from 15 points and 15 keys, um, to like 61 and 32. Um, so I'd played Luke metal for most of that. And I just, part of the frustration there is I got, I only got for like an entire day, I got like six seconds and like all of the, for all of the, all my finals losses were generally like, It's just really tilting too. Like I lost two, I lost two at tempos that played Tina for some reason. And I like completely had them be. And I just saw that Garrett, Tina and I just messaged this group chat. I was like, how often does this cry get played in this deck? Never. Right. And they're like, never. And I was like, all

Mike:

great.

Brit:

I'm glad. At least I haven't thought I am at least correct about the odds for a tempos are to play this card. You got, you got me, things like that. And then I guess I was particularly disheartening because I was like, I was in the driver's seat feeling good. And I was like, I'm beating tempos. Aren't as the Luke metal player, I clearly have this game under control. And then I got double here. Yeah. But now, like, as my son mincer the same, I've said it a few weeks in a row. Now I do think, and we've talked about it a little more, particularly this episode. Like there's a lot of good decks right now. There's a lot of options, so I'm really, really happy with that. Um, and so unfortunately that can sort of be a big factor in variants sometimes, but I don't feel too bad. I'm still trying to improve. So feel like I have a pretty good handle on the game and matchups and so on. And I don't know, I've beat plenty of players that qualified, so good. I'll do better than the iron relevance. Hopefully

Brent:

do you move?

Mike:

June 9th. So the day of the Swiss round of players cup, that's when the movers are coming to pick up all our shit. So the movers are going to be here from 8:00 AM to 12:00 PM And then players cup starts at like 1230, usually. So,

Brent:

And surely the movers will not take like any longer than they said they'd take. Cause that's never happened.

Mike:

yeah. Um, so hopefully, and I told Kelly this a few weeks ago. I was like, if, if you don't want me to play, if you think it'd be too stressful, like, I don't mind not playing, but she was like, I think it'd be fine. Um, so the plan is for me to play in the afternoon and then us to drive the next day. Cause it'll be a couple of days anyway, before their movers drop our stuff off. So it's not like we have to go at the same exact time. Um,

Brent:

That sounds super stressful. That sounds insanely stressful.

Mike:

well, luckily I'll probably just play peek around so I can like autopilot that anyway.